[LWC]

i seem to remember the general inmpression on here that people dis liked fan jets, i know its all personal preference, but i tried some yesterday, and i really really liked em!

it doesnt spray everywhere like i remember people saying, and i think it gives a better rinse if im honest.

i did a little window that was covered in muck and all above frame and i did it much quicker than i would have with the pencils and it came up spotless, i thought it was gonna be one of those windows that has runs down, you know the ones i mean?

anyone else get on well with them? i havent done a full day with them yet so time will tell, but first impressions were good!

[Rob_Mac]

In the four years we have cleaned windows using wfp we have converted all brushes to fans.

They offer a much better rinse

Rob

[Londoner]

I think the early problems were around the fact that they tended to use more water. Initially everyone had fans but went to small pencils. Fashions come and go.

[LWC]

I think the early problems were around the fact that they tended to use more water. Initially everyone had fans but went to small pencils. Fashions come and go.

yeh i thought that, but i had it on the same number on varistream as i would have with pencils and gave a spray i was happy with, and if your that little bit quicker doing the window your either gonna use same or even less

"in theory"

[Oakley Windows]

I love 'em myself LWC. Swear by them, I wouldnt have it any other way.

Theyre excellent for hydrophobic glass rinsing, excellent.

[Londoner]

I still think the jets on most brushes are too big anyway. I buy the 1.5 mm jets from Cleantech but most people supply 2mm as the smallest.
What we want are very small fan jets.

[Alex Gardiner]

I still think the jets on most brushes are too big anyway. I buy the 1.5 mm jets from Cleantech but most people supply 2mm as the smallest.
What we want are very small fan jets.

What a lot of suppliers call 2mm jets are actually slightly bigger nearer 2.5-3mm which makes quite a difference in consumption.

[LWC]

just done my first house with them this morn and well impressed, it was a  new clean and was so good at getting all crap out

the noise they make aswell! customer was well impressed with it

matt and m clean you reakon you use much more water?

[Oakley Windows]

I dont use more water IMO. Main reason for that though is I have a trigger on the pole, and I use it all the time. Also, Im going to be trying for a more prolonged period of time some LARGER jets Alex has managed to source for me, so that'll be more water.

The reason for larger jets was to minimse the risk of spray drift in slightly windy conditions.

[LWC]

my local supplier just got the trigger in, looks pretty good, how do you get on with it, does the loop get caught much? thats all i was thinking against it

[Oakley Windows]

The triger is as unnoticeable as you could hope for. Its there on the end of the pole, doesnt get in the way but easily pressed on or released off. I also have cable ties fixed strategically for when I want the trigger held on but without having to hold it in the 'on' position, they just flick into place, no stopping, no need to interrupt work, you do it automatically without thinking, like changing gear in a car.

[LWC]

like changing gear in a car.

huh, i always put it into number 1 and leave it, i just thought the engine was a bit rough?

[Tim82]

 We only use fan jets too. uses more water but does the job quicker, rather than the pencils less water  and slower job. which one would you choose?!

[dmlservices]

i started wfp with a unger telepole , vikan brush fitted with cleantech fans. i moved on to 2mm pencil jets , and have used these for the last 18 mths. the last couple of days i have had to use the unger and vikan with fans, was fearing i would not get a good job done , but they were much better , rinsed very well , the only thing i can see a problem with -for me, is the odd job here and there ,where i only do glass and rinse brush of , pencils in this case are better -more accurate. am thinking of going back to fans as they rinse a lot quicker, and use the pencil on tricky jobs. what make fans did you try ?



daz

[michael papworth]

I've posted this one before, but some might not have seen it, so I'll post it again!

www.wally-the-window-washer.co.uk/pencilsvsfans_0001.wmv

[NWH]

They might look like they rinse quicker and better but they don`t always,the weight of water from a fan jet is less than that from a pencil.In a lot of cases pencil jets produce a better finish IMO,i`ve used fans for quiet a while and always end up going back to pencils.

[michael papworth]

They might look like they rinse quicker and better but they don`t always,the weight of water from a fan jet is less than that from a pencil.In a lot of cases pencil jets produce a better finish IMO,i`ve used fans for quiet a while and always end up going back to pencils.

You're absolutely right. It's not using fan jets that's gets the job done. It's using fan jets properly. And that means using the right water flow and moving the brush at the right speed to get the right amount of water to do a good job of rinsing.

As with everything, it's the guy operating the equipment that gets the results.

If you get better results doing things your way with your gear, then that's the best for you.

[NWH]

I`ve come to the conclusion that there to messy and only work on certain windows,pencil jets however work on all windows.

[Wayne Thomas]

They might look like they rinse quicker and better but they don`t always,the weight of water from a fan jet is less than that from a pencil.In a lot of cases pencil jets produce a better finish IMO,i`ve used fans for quiet a while and always end up going back to pencils.

Totally agree with your comments about pencil being better than fan jets. Fan jets are too messy to guarantee a good result on windy days and for leaving waterflow on whilst jumping from one window to the next.

[Oakley Windows]

I`ve come to the conclusion that there to messy and only work on certain windows,pencil jets however work on all windows.

Id say its the other way round. Pencils struggle on hydrophobic glass, why does the topic crop up as often as it does? Because most people use pencils and struggle with them on hydrophobic glass? 95% of the reason I started using fans was because they solve the hydrophobic glass rinsing issue, the other 5% was curiosity.