[Simon Brannon]

Please see below a copy of my e-mail to Andrew McCann of Exel systems formerly of Adepta Engineering (  aka Purefreedom - A proper company to deal with and who always provide an excellent service ).
As yet I have had no reply so thought you good people should be warned.......




Dear Andrew McCann
 
 I was a little surprised to find out from Adepta that you had left the company and was even more surprised to come across your website whilst browsing the internet for supplies of parts and resin etc.
 
Glad to see you're still involved in the industry though after all the advice you gave me on start up and even gladder that you have taken my idea on board about offering a days training whilst the system is being installed - that would have been very helpful for a complete novice like I was whilst having mine fitted at Adepta !
 
However, I was EXTREMELY surprised to find a beautiful, new Peugeot Expert van plastered over several of your web pages with its rear doors open wide and ready to receive a system - especially as it is MY van and the picture was taken outside the Adepta site ( you can even see the buildings opposite Adepta on the other side of the road ! ).
 
 
My van is also featured on your van waterproofing page - again EXTREMELY surprising considering that you are advertising a cheap D.I.Y. product called Protecta kote at £79.99 and my van floor has Kevlar re-inforced SPEEDLINER flooring at a cost in excess of £450 !!
 
Kind of makes a mockery of your home page blurb " you can rest assured of our integrity, honesty and down to earth attitude " doesn't it ?
 
Now - I look forward to receiving your comments and proposed next move because whilst I have no real urge to get Trading Standards or Speedliner  themselves involved I think they would be very interested in the blatant mis-representation - don't you ?
 
 
Kind regards,
 
Simon Brannon
 
Propure

[Clive McDonald]

 As this is your first post can we make the assumption that you have joined merely to bad mouth another member Simon.

There is no way that your comments can be verified as true or otherwise by this forum, and they are possibly defamatory. I therefore suggest to Admin that this thread be removed.

[jeff1]

I smell a Rat
If its such a problem for you, I'm sure there are plenty of his happy customers on here that are more than willing to give there permission for him to use there photo's.

[trevor perry]

  all the time i have been on this forum i have heard nothing but praise for andrew mc cann and his business practices, so what if he has posted a picture of your vans interior on his site i am sure if you feel so petty about it he will remove it and take pictures of ones he is now fitting to replace it, to try and badmouth someone on a forum without just ringing him and asking him to remove the said picture just shows what sort of person you are.

[Oakley Windows]

Registered simply to shout his gob off.

Perhaps a village is missing its idiot.

[Simon Brannon]

[quote author=trevor perry link=topic=62080.msg533364#msg533364

 If he would actually just remove these pictures that would be great.
However it is important to remember that no matter hoe thin u slice the cake its always got two sides!!




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  all the time i have been on this forum i have heard nothing but praise for andrew mc cann and his business practices, so what if he has posted a picture of your vans interior on his site i am sure if you feel so petty about it he will remove it and take pictures of ones he is now fitting to replace it, to try and badmouth someone on a forum without just ringing him and asking him to remove the said picture just shows what sort of person you are.
[/quote]

[Simon Brannon]

I smell a Rat

[Simon Brannon]

That wouls be good



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I smell a Rat
If its such a problem for you, I'm sure there are plenty of his happy customers on here that are more than willing to give there permission for him to use there photo's.

[Simon Brannon]

It would have been nice if Andrew had indeed bothered to reply but as he hasn't then I thought people should know







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Registered simply to shout his gob off.

Perhaps a village is missing its idiot.

[Clive McDonald]

I have colour printed wc leaflets- but some of the pictures i never cleaned, does it matter ?they are representational not literal.

Someone who finds use of a picture of his unidentifiable van offensive is a nut job. Had it been your wife, then maybe you'd have a point. We've got enought nut jobs on here already, clear off.

[Simon Brannon]

Always dangerous to make assumptions dont you think.

If people think thats its OK business practise to falsely advertise a product then that says more about the type of people they are than it does about me.

As this is your first post can we make the assumption that you have joined merely to bad mouth another member Simon.

There is no way that your comments can be verified as true or otherwise by this forum, and they are possibly defamatory. I therefore suggest to Admin that this thread be removed.

[thewaterwizard]

  pity andrew  did not take a pic of my van when he fitted my system
  last week he would have been more than welcome to use it .
  
in fact i have some andrew if you want them email me or give me a call
great system well fitted and good advise  
    robin

[Captain Scarlet]

This isnt the right place to deal with this. Its embaressing for Andrew. I don think it was a good idea Simon. His products are fine. And the speedliner looks EXACTLY the same as protektakote, my Peugoet Expert has protektakote, and looks identical, but in blue. Its a minor thing really, with a massive accusation against a new business. It cant be easy for him to get images of a nice van to go on his site. Why dont you count your self fortunate he chose your nice van to show off. Luke

[s.w.c]

i do hate when newbie come on these forum and start this sort of crap off, not the best way to get on with others, ive had alot of dealings with andrew and i would say there is something wrong about all this,as jeff said i smell something

[Tosh]

Guys,

I kinda agree with Simon!  Now I've never been a fan of Andrew McCann; he seemed so nice, yet when you dug beneath the surface there were plenty of unhappy customers and he seemed to bleed this site for all he could.  It's all well and good to come across as a 'really nice guy', especially when you've something to gain from it.

And Simon has made a very basic statement.  If Andrew is as good as what he says; why should he use a photo from someone else; when he could use a picture from a job he's done himself; particularly when that photo is from a top £450 speedlining job and not a cheaper DIY job.

And this is also exactly the right place to deal with this sort of issue!  People who use this forum to advertise - as Andrew has done - do so at their own peril.

I do hope this posts remains here until Andrew replies.

[Simon Brannon]

You're right Luke - this isn't the place to deal with this but as Andrew has chosen to ignore my e- mail what else can you do?

This isnt the right place to deal with this. Its embaressing for Andrew. I don think it was a good idea Simon. His products are fine. And the speedliner looks EXACTLY the same as protektakote, my Peugoet Expert has protektakote, and looks identical, but in blue. Its a minor thing really, with a massive accusation against a new business. It cant be easy for him to get images of a nice van to go on his site. Why dont you count your self fortunate he chose your nice van to show off. Luke

[NWH]

I`ll wait for Andrews reply before i pass any comment,it`s only fair to let him have his say.

[Rob_B]

LOL small things....

I have seen no end of people use my pictures from my website. See it as a form of flattrey.

I once had an email from somene asking me to remove the picture from my hompage, as it was their hompage picture. Thing is it was my picture, and it was me in the picture cleaning. They had obviously ripped it from google images. I still can't make my mind up if it was a wind up or not.

[Clive McDonald]

For want of a better word tosh that is complete tosh. These allegations are un proven and possibly defamatory. How do you know that 'Simon Brannon' really exists? that images are of a van he owns? or that anything he says is true?

The only thing you do know about him is that he has taken the opportunity to use his very first post to hurl unpleasant accusations against a well known industry personality and member of this forum.

When you were forces i bet you were a right little hitler, judge and jury. You may think this a good thread to stir up, be are talking about someones goodname and business.

[gerard mcmanus]

You're right Luke - this isn't the place to deal with this but as Andrew has chosen to ignore my e- mail what else can you do?

Question, how did you know he was a member of this forum, if you did know that is?