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Tim82

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Does it work any better?
« on: September 10, 2008, 05:39:18 pm »
 Does the more expensive WFP equipment work any better than the cheaper stuff? I dont know much about ionics etc. I got all my equipment for less than a grand but i know you can still spend thousands.

niceandclean

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 05:55:44 pm »
Time will tell for me. I have a thermopure system and it has never let me down in 3 years, looks the biz and well made. But i now have a new system, alot cheaper than Ionics but still top quality parts. I didnt have the time to fit the new one, but if i had a few weeks or months then i would of done.

DASERVICES

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 05:58:12 pm »
Same result 000 TDS !!!!

Tim82

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 06:04:54 pm »
I have a sure-flo pump in a box ive been using since december and the flow switch is getting faulty already. I sometimes wish I'd bought a better quality system. It might just be that I have it on a trolly though and the pieces are always being moved in and out the car.

seandyer2003

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 06:09:00 pm »
Same result 000 TDS !!!!

As long as water is pure, its the pole that you wanna spend money on as this is what your working with!

d s windowcleaning

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 06:10:44 pm »
as long as your waters pure it will do the same job regardless of what equipment you have , im doing the same job with my set up for around a grand as a ionic user whos paid maybe 4 grand is .
where theres muck theres money

stevieg

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 06:57:13 pm »
HI unfortunately only new starters or people not having practical skills buy ready built stuff.I have met 2 or 3 people who did that (brodex and ionics)and were hacked off when they see how much i paid.The stuff is virtually the same ,just better presented i suppose, but none of my customers has ever done a van inspection!The other big advantage is that as you learn by making your own you can repair or replace things straight away.In my opinion the only important things are the water and the pole(lightness)

Tim82

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 07:00:26 pm »
The other big advantage is that as you learn by making your own you can repair or replace things straight away.

That's very true!

Paul Coleman

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 07:29:53 pm »
So long as the water container is secured properly in the van, the rest is more about convenience than necessity IMO.  A decent light pole like the SL-X is a big help though as the lightness can help you work faster.  I also find it saves ladder climbing onto a lot of lat roofs as it's long enough and light enough to bridge over more of them than heavier poles.  Not essential but very convenient.  Also, my personal experience is that flojet pumps are more reliable than sureflow - other people's experiences may differ though.  I think sureflow refuse to guarantee their pumps that are used for WFP (this might only apply if microbore is used - you will need to check on that).

Tim82

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 08:18:16 pm »
It seems to be the flow switch that burns out. Otherwise the pump works fine. Happened on 3 seperate pumps that we have.

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 09:02:33 pm »
If you have a muppet using a Ionics system & he doesn't know what hes doing the result will be crap.

On the other hand you can have someone using a DIY setup costing less than a grand & the results will be spot on.

At the end of the day IMO it mainly comes down to the opperator.

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 09:24:16 pm »
I had a 7,000 tucker pole system 6 years ago.......now have my own diy made as i stripped the tucker one to add varistems etc ,microbore dont waste your money as long as the waters pure you can have an old rain butt from b&q it will still do the same job...as said here its down to the operator..i could carry coke bttles filled with pure water in my pocket as long as i could pump the water out of them they would do the same job.......ask your customers what you have in your van..they wont have a clue

Paul Coleman

Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2008, 10:39:22 pm »
It seems to be the flow switch that burns out. Otherwise the pump works fine. Happened on 3 seperate pumps that we have.

There are ways of overcoming that I think.  One way is to have a return pipe back into the tank but I can't recall the exact details of how that is set up.  I'm sure someone will be able to fill in the details.

R.V.A Window Cleaning Services

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2008, 11:01:24 pm »
If you have a muppet using a Ionics system & he doesn't know what hes doing the result will be crap.

On the other hand you can have someone using a DIY setup costing less than a grand & the results will be spot on.

At the end of the day IMO it mainly comes down to the opperator.

You can also have muppets using DIY systems ;)
In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king

Tim82

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2008, 11:48:39 pm »
 It's the switch that controls the pump turning on when i am using water and turns off when i stop. it keeps stopping when im using it its dead annoying!

steve a

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2008, 07:10:28 am »
Tim you need to recirculate/bypass some of your water,
sounds like your pump is pumping more water than you are using so every now and then it stops to let you catch up/lower the pressure, then starts again.

Get a hozelock multi connector and a length of hose, drill a hole in the lid of your tank and connect hose to multi and feed into hole in lid, then turn on pump with pole attached and start opening valve on connector to extra bit of hose until desired flow at the brush is acheived, you will now have water recirculating back into tank and pump will not stop.
Only problem with this is that it uses more power.

Steve
 see attached pic of mine.

Tim82

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2008, 08:24:46 am »
 Thanks, but it works fine normally, thats the idea of the switch. Its just now it just gets to a point with these pumps in a short time where they wont switch on sometimes. I think they must burn out.

ok cleaning

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Re: Does it work any better?
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2008, 08:54:11 am »
 i have a diy system in my van and usin it for 4 years it did not cost much but it is doing a perfect job no complaints i know someone bought a full system( green stuff recyles the water) cost him 15 grand gave it back a few months later lost big money and says never again