[jacko]

Have been asked to clean a really filthy white rug - lady insisted on dry clean only as it had previously shrunk in a flood!

It is a belgian Wilton.

Using my dry powder sponges will probably only freshen it up, but a mist of Envirodri pre-spray should help. 

My question is this - would a mist of Microsplitter followed by agitation then application of sponges, allow to fully dry b4 dry extraction be effective and safe?

[Dave_Lee]

Hi Jacko,
Dont know, but ifs it really filthy then only HWE is going to do a good enough job.
If its a rug, whats the problem about shrinkage. It is not going to enough to make any real difference, though it may buckle slightly. Id just tell her that a dry clean wont touch it, so its up to her.
Dave.

[Ken Wainwright]

Jacko

Your proposed action is as per textbook. Pre-vac reverse of rug before  the face. Has the carpet been cleaned since the flood? If not I would use that as a lever to HWE and sanitise. Is the rug length absolutely critical? Normally not.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[jacko]

Thanks Guys, the rug is set into a bespoken slightly sunken bordered area in the middle of a hard floor. There are grippers but on one side you can see where it shrunk about an inch!

So if it did shrink again it would be a major issue!

[dave401uk]

i could be wrong but i would use the hwe method as per your post,and if, and i am sure you are carefull, it shouldnt shrink anyway,

Dave

[jacko]

Dave, my post suggests the use of a Microsplitting premist followed by agitation and application of dry powder sponges (Envirodri).

My theory is the M/s will remove the soil and the sponges (Powder) will absorb it then vac it up....

[jmj]

jacko

Why don't you try using one step dry cleaning compound, also i would say once the rug has shrunk due to a flood the chances of it shrinking any further under controlled hwe ,there shouldn't be a problem. As usual always prequalify this with the customer before.

joe

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I went to a custy who had a bw rug cleaned by another firm (and they are NCCA members) and they had shrunk it disproportionately, it was ruttled and would not go back down.

I would Ms it agitate with enviro dry machine and then apply sawdust/sponges and keep brushing in and in and in.

Ultra pack renovate is also an excellent product as the 'soapy' solution acts as a very good lubricant and the results are brilliant and also activator from Dry Fusion is well recomended.

Shaun

[Gavin Reardon]

Hi Jacko

I Im going to take the Mike Halliday approach on this one (straight talking)

Just walk away from this one.

My reasons are, well in your words the rug is filthy! and it has to be dry cleaned!
are you going to get the results this lady will wont?

How much money will you make? How much time and affort will it take?

Look at the risks involved mmmmmmmmmm

Not for me 

Regards

Gavin

[woodman]

Good Vacuum

Then if you have access to a Texatherm system or DF I would use this on a BW rug, you will have no shrinkage and a clean rug

[mark_roberts]

Tell the client you dry clean it via Texatherm.

If that doesnt work tell her it needs HWE and its her call.  Incidently Ive cleaned using HWE and also emersion cleaned B/W rugs and all have been fine except one. 

However the above is timely and B/W rugs are cheap so really you want her approval to HWE first.

Mark

[jacko]

Guys

I don't have Texatherm or DF. My question really is this:  If the soil was seperated from fibres using  M/S - would Enviro dri sponges pick that soil up?

[Ken Wainwright]

Jacko

Your theory is logical and sound and, given the prospects concerns over shrinkage, is a reasonable way to go.

You may wish to pre-treat, agitate and/or perhaps bonnet mop, apply dry extraction compound and continue in the normal way for this system. Post clean vaccing will be painfully slow and drawn out. Charge accordingly for a premium, safety led service to requirements specified by the customer.

On your written quotation, qualify the limited results expected.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[jacko]

Cheers Ken,

I intend to leave the powders in the Rug all day, as this gives them time to dry completely hence making the final vac easier and effective. Also i have a big job on this day, so i am doing the rug at 8am then comming back a 6pm for the final vac..

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Jacko remember sponges are moist and can cause potential shrinkage because of this, unless your room that you are leaving rug in is well ventilated!

Shaun

[jacko]

Cheers Shaun i will ensure plenty of ventilation!

[jacko]

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Rug came up well. Atempted to post b4 and after photo here but looks like i've joined the Red Cross!

Used following method with good effect:

Pre Vac
Mist Micro Splitter
Agitate with Enviro-dri machine (stnd brush)
Sprinkle "sponges"
Agitate extensively with Enviro-dri machine
Left for 7 hours to dry thoroughly (had another job)
Final Vac
Groom pile.

The 1st stage took 20mins and the second 25.

One satisfied customer!