[ally gray]

74 responses to the poll.

Thanks everyone gives me some idea, and of course i fully understand why most don,t want to go into to much detail, but 74 is not bad considering a certain nwh said there would be none.

nwh by the way if you have nothing constuctive to say why post, you obviously miss the whole point by your inarticulate ramblings.

ally

[ally gray]

It seems this post is seriously digressing now but just out of interest i would like to add my weight (well the majority of it) to Ewans argument which does have many sound observations.

Ally

[ftp]

Pillar to post - now i understand what you mean  : i apologise for jumping in and not fully understanding some of your comments Ewan.

[Clive McDonald]

yes, negative growth for two quarters, but then there are disagreements on exactly what's a recsssion, when does it become a depression and when do we start calling it a slump.

These last few years a twin or multitrack economy has been confusing things even further. For example house building and house prices may be booming with low inflation, but manufacturing is gloomy, while restaurants and the hospitality industry is busier than ever, but new car registrations are down..... It goes on and on some sectors faring well, others not. The difference with the credit crunch is that it is set to get all of us given time to work it's way through the system.

[Clive McDonald]

My neighbour co owns the largest debt collection agency in the uk and he says business is great, and getting better. So you are right it doesn't affect everybody, and apparently showbiz, chocolate and baked beans all do well in hard times too.

There was a dog sanctuary on the telly, calls to from owners to dump the family pet up from six a week to thirty, and the credit crunch given as the reason.

As you know i've been posting about expanding operations. There should be some well motivated staff about at least, and if I am sensible I think this can still be done. Very often my 'arguing' is me trying to bounce ideas, of course the answers are not always what I want to hear.

[NWH]

What your saying about being a good time to find reliable staff is so true.

[matt]

What your saying about being a good time to find reliable staff is so true.

but when things get tighter, your staff will see how much is getting charged for a house and house much they are making per house, will they be more likely to think " i will have a slice of that " greed and all that

[NWH]

But at the same time they might just think at least i have a regular job here better make sure i keep it who know`s,it all depends on what type of a person they are.That`s the battle with employing isn`t it finding the right person.

[Clive McDonald]

You would probably make a better boss than i ever would Matt. I've never been in charge of anyone, and if I worked for you probably the least likely person you would promote. However i don't see why that should stand in the way of my making money.

I work too hard and think someone else should do some. Just because i'm probably a poor boss I would pay well and am good at all the other things like getting work at the right price.

[neil100]

£250 for a days work is very getable.

I think you will only get it by wfp.I was trad for many years and that figure was only getable when someone worked with me for a fullday.

Some see the green eyed monster when you post what you earn and think your bragging, so I will not post what I earn. A freind of mine did earn over £500 in a day on domestic work once, but he was totally drained and it was only done once to see what he could earn, But he normally earns around 240,he only works part time and earns 400 to 500 a week.

If you can earn £40 an hour and do 10 hours a day you will get £400 for a days work. If you only get £10 an hour you would get £100.

But if you only get £100 for a 10 hour day how do you feel about the chap who gets £400.

You have to remmber this job is very hard to do a 40 hour week in winter.So you might think £40 an hours is high, but this is only your gross earnings at best,Take for example where I live we have had rain every day for the last 3 weeks. 3 days this week it rained solid.

Good money is possible at w/cleaning, I am living proof and most of my freinds earn a good whack at it,they justwork less hours then me. So how much do I earn a week?

Mind your own BLOODY BUSINESS

Neil

[mark dew]

Anybody who doesn’t need credit or need to refinance will not be touched technically and it will be just a case of business as usual, but in a different economic climate.

As long as you take that in consideration, most will get over the downturn.

Aha, common ground i think. 
Ewan, you have described the typical customer for a window cleaner.
However i don't think we as wc will be too affected cos we have too many separate jobs to make losing one a catastrophe.
It is true that we will get over whatever is coming.
For some of our customers that might not be the case. Will that affect us? I doubt it. 

[pardu]

haya. I have been looking at this thread with some interest , I dont think anybody wants to know anybodys earnings but what to charge for different propertys, would be a real help, just to be given an approx idea of what to charge for a semi or detached would be a real help to us newbs ,  thanks..

[jaykie]

Im actually feeling happy about the slump in house prices as it means none of you guys can sell your propertys and move down south as id have no work.

[dai]

I lost four customers last week and had two leave them this times. Three had moved without telling me, one was a repossession. I did pick up two new ones, so it's not all doom and gloom, but they haven't had their increased fuel bills in yet either.
When you lose more than you are taking on its a sure sign all is not well, I can't recall that happening before, it may be only a blip, the next few months will tell.

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

another totally pointless poll
what we earn should stay between you, your other half, your bank manager and accountant

NOT FORGETTING the dreaded taxman