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doak

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wfp and resin
« on: August 28, 2008, 09:09:13 pm »
hi
ok about to buy a wfp system (diy)
i have a tds reading of between of around 349
what do you reckon    ro unit with a di?

How often to change resin and is it costly?
and is there any other hidden costs (bar water)

cheeeerssss :D
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doak

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 09:15:45 pm »
ooh  forgot to say

who best to use for price and help etc

r o man ?
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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 09:19:14 pm »
Definately RO.

If you don't, you'll get through so much resin!

Depending on how much water you want to filter per week, you'll need an ro to suit.

However, from your motto about wanting to be a millionnaire, I'd buy the best and biggest you can afford, so you don't outgrow your equipment too quickly.

So why not go for a 40 40 ro?

Then your resin will last ages, as it's only polishing out the last few ppm left after the ro.

doak

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 09:27:28 pm »
i will be staring with approx 10 house a weekend before i make the full time plunge how big a tank do you reckon jewel?
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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 09:31:13 pm »
Are you getting a tank fitted in van?

If so, it might be worth going for the best/biggest for your specific van, taking into account payloads etc.

For 10 houses, I'd probably want to have about 125 litres to hand.

I use barrels still at the moment, it's a good way to start.  After a few cleans you get to know how much water you'll need too.

alanwilson

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 09:56:25 pm »
you can buy a ready built 650ltr 4040RO system from Andrew McCann for less than £2k - someone on here will have the link I'm sure.

add another £450 for an SLX (which really does sound the business) and another £100 for a reel/hose and you've got a really good system for your money.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

doak

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 10:35:16 pm »
as just starting going for trolley set up with tank in my brick shed
diy kit
a guy on this forum sent me link for a diy set up for 500 as money is very very tight may go for this unless you guys no of any other way
i do own a renault kangoo but heard van set up very dear and fancied the trolley

all advice is grand and taken seriously
so any other tips would be brillllll
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alanwilson

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 11:27:34 pm »
my advice - borrow £2500 over 2 years = approx £115/month

this will buy you professional equipment, get you up and running very quickly and peace of mind knowing that you have Andrews backup.  For less than £30 a week you won't find anything better for your money.

some of the diy efforts I have seen have been nothing more than a waste of money - the setup I have recommended you will last you for many years.
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roundbuilder

Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 08:51:58 am »
When I was cleaning before canvassing I used a freedom trolley as a van system, cost me probably £1000 all in all. kept it in the van with a 500lt tank and used 100m of hose to reach all my houses, for the odd 1 or 2 with hard access or a maze with hose I could always wizz my trolley round. Does anybody else do this as I found it worked great this way???

Mick

adixon

Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 09:32:48 am »
I too have the freedom trolley and work the same way works a treat for me best of both worlds

WCE

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 01:50:51 pm »
you can buy a ready built 650ltr 4040RO system from Andrew McCann for less than £2k - someone on here will have the link I'm sure.

add another £450 for an SLX (which really does sound the business) and another £100 for a reel/hose and you've got a really good system for your money.
Thats a bit of overkill for a starter package. Particularly like the bit about the slx (no offence but how can you recommend something you have only heard about and never used?)
You can get a trolley based system including pole, ro etc for £995.00 from pure freedom.  If starting out and not building your own system then this is what I would buy. The good thing about this system is if you want to go over to van mount you can use the trolley as a pump box and you only have to get a tank in the van. Imo this is a great package to start as you can use all the bits as part of an upgrade. 
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alanwilson

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 07:10:03 pm »
If you are starting in business then you shouldn't enter into a business unless you are prepared to do it right - sorry, trolleys IMHO are mostly pointless.

as are small ro's
cheap poles - to a lesser extent

2.5k isn't a lot to repay.
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WCE

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2008, 09:33:19 pm »
Trolleys - Depends on the work. I have some work where I wouldn't be with out a trolley. The work is down alleys you couldn't reach it from a van mount, even with a 500m hose. A backpack wold be no good, filling every 5 mins so the trolley becomes the happy medium. Just to be clear I use mine with a hose to get the best of both worlds (and I agree a trolley without a hose is a pain!). So in that case a van mount  would be no use, if it cost £500 or £5000000 Then it wouldn't matter it's still no use in this situation. I agree the kit you suggest would be top of the range and what most aspire to but the guy is only doing 10 houses a WEEKEND at the moment, who can say that he wont hate it? In this case I would say £2.5k is a lot to spend on a mistake.  I was just trying to suggest a cheaper alternative. Anyway what about the SLX? (and it doesn't matter if it's the best or worst pole in the world)  How can you recommend something you've never used? 
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roundbuilder

Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 11:21:25 pm »
simon wonder is selling a trolley system on here in for sale section if anygood to you.

alanwilson

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2008, 12:32:20 am »
fair point about the slx

but with so many rave reviews about it then surely its the way forward.
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Xline Systems

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2008, 10:17:27 am »
doak. i would advise an ro but wouldnt even entertain that without a water softener unit on it. as it would cost you a arm and a leg in filter and resin changes with a tap tds of 350ppm

doak

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2008, 11:50:14 am »
hey mate can you give me an example of a ro with a water softner?
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Xline Systems

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2008, 11:56:14 am »
a water softner does exactly what it says. this will soften the water before it passes through the ro. this will prolong the life of your ro and make it proform better. Meaning you will get a much reduced tds (pure water) exiting the ro meaning your di resin lasting longer because of it not having to do as much work. So in the long run cheaper running costs of your system. What sort of ro was you thinking of using?

james (xline-systems)

doak

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2008, 11:59:35 am »
was looking at ro man website   75 gallon a day unit with built in di  as starting small
my water pressure is average and i have a domestic water softner fitted to my house as its hard water in suffolk

heelllp
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WCE

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Re: wfp and resin
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2008, 12:21:02 pm »
go for the 200gpd one. Otherwise you will end up spending out twice save yourself some cash, and get this one. It can also be upgraded by twinning the membrane and adding a booster pump. It's an RO that can grow with your business but with a reasonable outlay to start with.
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