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God, your poor wife Ewan!

[David Slater]

You should have read my previous post; the decision has already been accepted by the tax office and my accountant.

There have been others on here that have done similar, I know personally other window cleaners who do it.

You still haven’t explained what is a “local round”?

 :

~sigh~

Local round:

Does your work require you to be away from home overnight?

Does you work require you to work unsocial hours?

Does your work require you to entertain clients? (thats a whole new minefield!)

So Ewan....if you're staying away overnight (and cannot return home) then HMRC would expect to see a 'food allowance' attached to you hotel invoice. Perfectly acceptable.

Wandering around your home town and returning home in the evening....NOT allowed.

Anyway, I'm not HMRC

......so you argument wont be with me my friend  

A footnote -

You havent actually said in any of your posts that this arrangement has been agreed with HMRC.

[Neil Williams]

if you're staying away overnight (and cannot return home) then HMRC would expect to see a 'food allowance' attached to you hotel invoice. Perfectly acceptable.

Wandering around your home town and returning home in the evening....NOT allowed.

In 2 sentences that sums it up exactly

[WCE]

Ewan, I have to agree with David. My understanding was that if you work away from home then you could claim but if you were working close to home you cany. If this wasn't the case then all the local builders etc would be doing it but they are not. I think you've been given bad advice and maybe the tax office have misunderstood your situation. I would do as David says and write to them and get them to clarify the EXACT rules regarding this. Until you have done this and proved me wrong (in writing) then i'm afraid to say I think you are wrong.   

[Oakley Windows]

Oh no, not another one on her side.

 

From what I gather she needs as many as she can get.

Your lucky women are generally as tolerant and forgiving as they are, far more so than the male of the species anyway, however, theres always exceptions to the rule.....careful 

[WCE]

I won’t be proving anybody right or wrong, the information is there, and interpretation is usually the cause of disagreements.

I’m confident that I am accurate, surprising so many have got it wrong, and you should question yourself on where you got your information from.

It's not a case of proving anyone right or wrong. The point is if you could get someone form the hmrc to clarify that waht you are saying IN WRITING then we know what you say is true. Then we can all start to claim for it - thats why I want you to write, it could benefit us all.

[Oakley Windows]

Like you know, Mr Touchy.

[Oakley Windows]

Come on, you can do better than that for crying out loud.

[Oakley Windows]

I hadnt even started.

[Neil Williams]

Internet crank comes to mind. 

From someone who thinks it's ok to claim for takeaway sarnies when you could have made your snack attacks before setting off in the morning like anyone else in the real world would have done.

[peter holley]

who cares???if you can get away with it... then good for you ...
if you dont try , then thats your choice

iether way ....who cares???

[David Slater]

Ewan,

Prove me (and lots of others) wrong.

If you have a letter in your hand which clearly states that 'meals or 'food' are a deductable expense from HMRC, then surely it is to your benefit to post it up for all to see and use.

Just like other advice is shared freely on this ite. If you have indeed got a letter in your hand that backs up this ruling then I would be the first to congratulate you and offer my sincere thanks for saving me several hundred pounds each year.

I would at least owe you a drink at the next CIU p*ss up  

P.S...

Do we have CIU p*ss ups?....wheres my invite?

[David Slater]

who cares???if you can get away with it... then good for you ...
if you dont try , then thats your choice

iether way ....who cares???

The problem isnt 'claiming things'...its supporting it a later date.

HMRC may 'review' your returns in several years time. The burden of proof is NOT on HMRC to disallow a particular 'expense' in any given year.

It is down to you YOU to understand the rules and legislation and file your accounts accurately (within the guidlines and taxable allowances).

If it is found at a later date that you have spuriously claimed 'allowances' which you (or your company) are not allowed then this could be deemed fraud or tax evasion.

Some pretty serious fines will then ensue.


...trust me.

Been there, done that......and paid the fine!

[David Slater]

who cares???if you can get away with it... then good for you ...
if you dont try , then thats your choice

iether way ....who cares???

I’m beginning to come around to your thinking

Oh, I'm 'just' a lowly window cleaner...they'll never bother looking at me 

WRONG




Dont say I didnt tell you.

So are we to take it you havent got a letter supporting your claim and its just i your own mind?

[peter holley]

heres something i learned a long time ago!









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[davids3511]

Basically Ewan, you cannot claim as you have suggested. You can go ahead and do it but if HMRC ever come knocking you will be viewed as not having made a mistake but as being involved in tax evasion. HMRC have already had a guy to court over this in, a Mr Quinn in 1975 - www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/bimmanual/BIM37920.htm

and for more general HMRC rules on the subject -
 
www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/bimmanual/BIM47705.htm

[peter holley]

 its time to leave ewan alone..... yes he is over confident, but his posts are positive, and he has a plan....good luck to him!   ... i much prefer to read positive thoughts , rather than the "its raining or im too cheap, etc"

this theread is doing my nut in

[David Slater]

its time to leave ewan alone..... yes he is over confident, but his posts are positive, and he has a plan....good luck to him!   ... i much prefer to read positive thoughts , rather than the "its raining or im too cheap, etc"

this theread is doing my nut in

Wrong.

Its time to address some very disturbing advice that is being bandied about on a public forum that could be used by another window cleaner.

Lets just stand back and assess this 'advice' shall we.

1. Ewan states he can claim 'meals'

2. Ewan reckons its been passed by HMRC

3. Ewan then states he has never approached HMRC

4. Ewan states "its my first year of trading and nobody disagreed with it"

5. Ewan back-peddles furiously

6. Ewan resorts to personal slights to cover the overwhelming evidence from several posters (including the official HMRC website) that what he says is wrong.

If you feel this is sound advice and you are willing to take it on board and start claiming your 'allowance' then good luck to you and your "happy clappy" "feel good" world.



...meanwhile, back on planet earth the HMRC WILL find you. And you WILL pay the price.

[peter holley]

iv already paid the price!!!by the hmrc, when they did a tax enquiry a few years ago....
all im saying is lighten up a little

[Jewel Cleaning]

Lock this thread or the mods will (hopefully!)