[Oakley Windows]

Arent expenses costs youve had to pay for the purpose of work/working?

Id have thought food would need to be bought whether you go to work or not, thus not a work expense, a living expense.

If you don’t think food is necessary for you to work, I agree it’s not an expense.

 

So you dont eat when you're not working?

Fair enough.

[vision tech]

The farthest I go from my house to work is 4 miles,

do i qualify for tax relief?

[Oakley Windows]

Does this mean you can go down the boozer, get w****red and put it against your tax?

 


Also........right hand column, bottom row.

www.glazers.co.uk/tax_deductible_expenses.htm

Matt

[Ian W]

Oh well. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one...

[borg]

i dont claim it but i got 2 eat or i dont work cause when i got a lot on and in hot days i eat loads only cause i got  diabetes.

[karygate]

i like the sod every one else my accountant must be right and all yours are wrong and the tax advisor who does refresher courses every year. 

[cat9921]

i like the sod every one else my accountant must be right and all yours are wrong and the tax advisor who does refresher courses every year. 

you must be on the fiddle karygate 

[karygate]

I THOUGHT IT WAS  "THE CAT AND THE FIDDLE."

[Mark Bants]

I am still waiting to see your website Ewan :

[Mark Bants]

I understand Ewan you obviously do not have one but have read the books : Anyway thanks and appologies for going off topic :

[Mark Bants]

Ewan all the key players in the industry display there websites for all of usto see for free. Why oh why would anyone pay to see a website of a person who gives the advice but will not show us your site : I will not get into an on line spat but i think most can see who is all type

[peter holley]

Ewan all the key players in the industry display there websites for all of usto see for free. Why oh why would anyone pay to see a website of a person who gives the advice but will not show us your site : I will not get into an on line spat but i think most can see who is all type

why have you hidden your whole identity?

[Oakley Windows]

I understand Ewan you obviously do not have one but have read the books : Anyway thanks and appologies for going off topic :

 

[David Slater]

Food for window cleaning?....I dont think so!

What argument are you using to justify the allowance?

Whatever that argument is, taxi driver/couriers/builders/electricians/plasters/roofers/ joiners...basically the whole self employed world!! would be able to claim it.

What is a 'reasonable' amount for lunch? £5? £10? £100?

Does it go on turnover or profit?

Food is NOT a legitimate business expense for window cleaning.

Overnight allowances (such as hotels and food) would be OK....within reason. But no alcohol.

I suppose if you have evidence that window cleaners employed by a company are given a daily allowance for food then it could be argued you should also get that tax break.

...do YOU know of any employers who give a direct food allowance (above and separate to their hourly rate) to their employees while window cleaning while working Monday-Friday 8am - 5pm?

[peter holley]

im of the oppinion ...claim for it......and if they say no it's not on, then so be it!.....untill that time i claim for as much as i can

[David Slater]

I was hungry, and I bought a sandwich, and I have the receipt.

Fact that you ask so many questions about the possibility of putting in for this expense, show you are unsure.

Also what you think on the subject same as me or anybody else doesn’t mean anything.
It’s what the tax office think.


 

I wasnt asking questions Ewan. I was merely highlighting how absurd it sounds when posed in the form of a question.

I was thirsty and bought a pint of beer. I have the receipt etc etc...

NOT tax deductable.

I needed to know the time as I dont own a watch. I bought a Rolex Oyster etc etc..

NOT tax deductable.

Ewan, I dont speak from 'what I think' on this subject.

A few years ago I had a VAT inspection and had £8,000 worth of 'client hospitality' (meals) challenged. Customs successfully argued that it was disproportionate to my level of business (and in hindsight they could have been right!!..lol).

You would be skating on very thin ice with this, my friend.

HMRC have powers to go back as long they like....everyone thinks its 6 years but thats a load of nonesense.

Under a 'discovery' (what used to be termed a tax investigation) they have the power to go back up to 20 years.

Claim food if you think you can. I would strongly suggest you clarify this point (in writing) with your local Tax 0ffice.

If you dont...be ready for a 'discovery' a few years down the line which could launch your business into a world of hate that could go on for several years all for the sake of a few quid on sandwiches which will no doubt throw up some VERY interesting results for HMRC   

[David Slater]

But this is why I disagree; everything has been checked by the tax office by the accountant.

I told you it’s not what I think, like I said in a previous post as long as you don’t take the p*ss with this sort of thing there are legitimate reasons why you can put in this sort of expense.

Your own window cleaning business may/will be different to any body else, but there still may be an occasion when you need to put something like this down as expense.

That sandwich may not come back to cause you trouble.

 

As I said, in an 'overnight allowance' situation then yes, I would expect it to be deductable.

Wandering around on your 'local round' claiming sandwiches.....NOT tax deductable.

Please let me know the EXACT wording of your question and also the response from HMRC.

General questions only produce general answers.

Specific questions elicit specific answers from HMRC.

....thats why you should always write to them and KEEP the letter 

[David Slater]

What is a “local round” ?

 

What was the EXACT wording of your question to HMRC?

[David Slater]

If you read through my previous post on this thread, you might find the answer you are looking for, as I have no idea to what your point is.

 

Your letter should read something like -

To: HMRC

I would like clarification on a certain issue.

As you are no doubt aware, I operate a window cleaning business and operate locally (and/or nationally).

Please could you clarify the situation concerning 'meal allowances' or 'food' generally while I am at work.

I have read some information that leads me to believe I can claim a 'daily allowance' for food for each day I am working.

Please could you clarify this point and also state what legislation/law/regulation you are using to support this advice.

Hugs and kisses..
Ewan.

Send something like that, and let me know what they say.

Reading your posts, you have possibly misinterpreted some advice concerning another field or industry. Each has its own unique (and peculiar) tax allowances.

I would stake my reputation on the answer being - NOT Allowed for local window cleaning (if you go home at the end of the day). HMRC will back this up with some evidence and case history and inform you by letter of their findings.

If you have already done this, I say again - please let me know the EXACT wording of your letter to HMRC and their reply.

[David Slater]

David your wrong accept it, just out of curiosity what exactly is a local round as you keep using that phrase?

Once you have the letter in your hand from HMRC that proves me wrong, please feel free to post up its contents.

You think you can play pendanctics with HMRC over how far you do or dont travel?

...lol. You are sorely mistaken my friend.