[JSMC]

uyp where I live i work mainly in the town centre every day doing all the shops and meet load sof people who work in them

another today informed me that the WC round her way is getting cancelled by loads due to the mess left by WFP.every week i  reckon i meet someone who has horror stories about it.

woman informed me that  she has cancelled him and load smore about to do the same. people not happy wit it at all.
gonna be so har dfor me to use this becasue people are telling you before you start not to use it on their houses.


if you get good service you tell a few people normally but if ye get bad service ye tell everybody.

WFP is bad news round my way big time

[clean]

WFP`s are a very easy tool to get it wrong,most of the time it`s the actual person using it that is doing it wrong,because it is still a newish way of cleaning to alot of people there are not enough compared to trad to give it a fair chance to prove it to those that have a bad experience,the only thing you can do is prove it yourself to people by giving them a free demo 

[Oakley Windows]

Better stick to your ladder if thats what you want.

[JSMC]

sticking to the ladder might be the only option around here

[clean]

sticking to the ladder might be the only option around here

Ye but that`s the easy way out, remember "he who dares wins" 

[Oakley Windows]

Ive picked up custys who've binned their old WFP window cleaner because the standard of work was naff. Theyve never mentioned to me since I took over that the standard has been below what they want. Operator error, you get it whereever a person strives to make a living.


I took a look at a job that another WFP'er did this week (after he'd left  due to hearing horror stories about him) and yes the windows were crud, how the hell he manages to leave them so spotted is beyond me, makes me wonder about it all sometimes.

[JSMC]

well it would seems there are shed load of bad operators around here. When i start i am gonna use it on 1 or 2 windows to show them how it works.

[Oakley Windows]

Do the whole house, be done, have confidence, why let cowboys screw you over?

Do you have NO confidence in yourself (cos you cant blame the tools!!)

[clean]

Do the whole house, be done, have confidence, why let cowboys screw you over?

Do you have NO confidence in yourself (cos you cant blame the tools!!)

Matt`s right,
"don`t blame the tools" 

[NWH]

Operator error it`s as simple as that,like Matt said all trades have cowboys ours is no different.I think Alex said the other day some people are just not suited to using it and no matter how long they do it they just can`t get the hang of it,it`s not as easy as it looks or sounds and this thread proves it i have lost no customers due to WFP if i don`t do them anymore it was my choice.

[macmac]

As Mr. Kong said, wfp is very easy to get wrong. To be honest I'm not supprised so many get it wrong as it seems to be sold/talked about etc as a magic solution to wealth!!

It takes time, practice, effort, etc & lots of it to perfect. You have to be armed with a proper knowlage of what is going on, only then will you be able to get the results. Then you begin to gain experience of where to use it & where not, as it's not suitable for all work. Another downside for a newbie is being sold crap equipment- heavy, bendy poles with poor brushes which are jetted wrongly, or, indeed him choosing the cheapest options.

It's very easy for the results not to be good on the first clean, or maybe first few cleans for a newbie. When the system is explained properly to a customer, most are willing to forgive this BUT in your case you maybe starting handicapped by another wfp'ers bad work/attitude maybe?

Wfp is a very good tool, not perfect by any means but IMO you are looking at, at least 12 months to be fully profficient in it's use! & even then you will still be learning.

Tony

[NWH]

As Mr. Kong said, wfp is very easy to get wrong. To be honest I'm not supprised so many get it wrong as it seems to be sold/talked about etc as a magic solution to wealth!!

It takes time, practice, effort, etc & lots of it to perfect. You have to be armed with a proper knowlage of what is going on, only then will you be able to get the results. Then you begin to gain experience of where to use it & where not, as it's not suitable for all work. Another downside for a newbie is being sold crap equipment- heavy, bendy poles with poor brushes which are jetted wrongly, or, indeed him choosing the cheapest options.

It's very easy for the results not to be good on the first clean, or maybe first few cleans for a newbie. When the system is explained properly to a customer, most are willing to forgive this BUT in your case you maybe starting handicapped by another wfp'ers bad work/attitude maybe?

Wfp is a very good tool, not perfect by any means but IMO you are looking at, at least 12 months to be fully profficient in it's use! & even then you will still be learning.

Tony

Tony has completley summed it all up,i would listen to that as a newbie because he`s right although i hate saying it.Top tip from me though is to get a bigger van lol.

[macmac]

As Mr. Kong said, wfp is very easy to get wrong. To be honest I'm not supprised so many get it wrong as it seems to be sold/talked about etc as a magic solution to wealth!!

It takes time, practice, effort, etc & lots of it to perfect. You have to be armed with a proper knowlage of what is going on, only then will you be able to get the results. Then you begin to gain experience of where to use it & where not, as it's not suitable for all work. Another downside for a newbie is being sold crap equipment- heavy, bendy poles with poor brushes which are jetted wrongly, or, indeed him choosing the cheapest options.

It's very easy for the results not to be good on the first clean, or maybe first few cleans for a newbie. When the system is explained properly to a customer, most are willing to forgive this BUT in your case you maybe starting handicapped by another wfp'ers bad work/attitude maybe?

Wfp is a very good tool, not perfect by any means but IMO you are looking at, at least 12 months to be fully profficient in it's use! & even then you will still be learning.

Tony

Tony has completley summed it all up,i would listen to that as a newbie because he`s right although i hate saying it.Top tip from me though is to get a bigger van lol.

 

 

Stop it Nigel, you're making me blush      

Tony

[DASERVICES]

I'm up your way tomorrow so will find out who is having problems, visiting a few as they have got problems with their systems. Hopefully can point them in the right direction if what you say is correct.

[NWH]

  thank the lord it`s friday,no work till tuesday.

[Paul Coleman]

uyp where I live i work mainly in the town centre every day doing all the shops and meet load sof people who work in them

another today informed me that the WC round her way is getting cancelled by loads due to the mess left by WFP.every week i  reckon i meet someone who has horror stories about it.

woman informed me that  she has cancelled him and load smore about to do the same. people not happy wit it at all.
gonna be so har dfor me to use this becasue people are telling you before you start not to use it on their houses.


if you get good service you tell a few people normally but if ye get bad service ye tell everybody.

WFP is bad news round my way big time

I had one ring up a couple of weeks ago proudly announcing that she had a big 7 bedroom house.  She then asked me if I used a ladder or a pole and told me she got my number from Yellow Pages.  My ad states clearly that I use a "pure water pole system" (I had to instruct YP NOT to call it Reach & Wash as they intended).  She ordered me NOT to use a pole.  I just politely suggested that she phone elsewhere.

Around my way there is one comnpany that I know of that uses WFP on low level shop fronts.  IMO it's a bad idea because it soaks a main public thoroughfare.  I watched him discretely once.  He hooks up a hose to a tap at the rear of the shop somewhere and runs it through a small DI vessel.
I get little trouble these days re WFP - though I think I'm about to lose one over it (first one for ages).

[NWH]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

[Sir Squeaky]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

Blimey, someone who agrees with me about that.

[NWH]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

Blimey, someone who agrees with me about that.

Squeaky i`ve missed you,honest i have.

[L.J.Thorpe]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

Blimey, someone who agrees with me about that.

i agree with both of you i went back to trad on a couple of car dealers showrooms
it only takes a few minutes longer and saves enough water for a couple of 3 bed houses
back on topic
jsmc you seem to have talked yourself out of wfp before you even start
quit yo jibber jabber fool
get some nuts