[Kevin R]

merton you are certainly entertaining just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework 

Well don't ask me for help 

[merson]

merton you are certainly entertaining just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework 

Touche !   

Well don't ask me for help 

[Kevin R]

merton you are certainly entertaining just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework 

Touche !   

Well don't ask me for help 

MR Merson, It would be very helpful that If you are quoting someone than please type your reply outside of the quotation marks - not that I am overly interested in your replys.....LOL 

[merson]

Please accept my humble appologies    I can understand I am in the presence of greatness .

[mark311069]

kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??

[merson]

kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??

Whimp !

[Clive McDonald]

The trouble when these threads turn sour is that the rest of us don't get the info.35ft is a lot of leverage, what is the answer?

[mark311069]

kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??

Whimp !

why dont you go and chat to you mates!! oh sorry i forgot you dont have any

[Glyn H]

I am writing a method that we use to erect the poles it is the same method we use for window cleaning poles. I will post it when completed.
I guess we take it for granted that people will use the same method we have adopted over years of using window cleaning poles of all weights and sizes.
I appoligise if you were not shown on your visit to us.

[cameron]

I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?

[Glyn H]

Erecting poles to reach area to be cleaned.


This method is used if the operator decides the pole is too heavy to lift straight up from the ground or if the operator has difficulty sliding the sections up and securing the sections one at a time whilst the pole is in its final vertical position.

Extend the pole to roughly its desired length whilst it is in a vertical position, if two personal are present then the pole operator places his instep at the base of the pole whilst the assistant holds the pole at the far end and walks towards the operator finally passing the erected pole onto the operator.
For a lone worker the base of the building acts as the steadying method with the operator walking towards the building – by the time the operator reaches the building the pole will be in an upright position.

[STEVE-UK]

kev,

In the picture it looks like you have the cross bar attached to the pole on one end and the other to the rubber hose, is that how you preffer it or is it supposed to be that way

[Glyn H]

The lengths of the Omnipole  GutterVac tubes are 6' and approx 50mm. The GutterVac tubes are semi modular inso far as their are only two tube diameters.
The GutterVac tubes are constructed from aerospace alloy. The tubes are secured by a thumbscrew clamp.
You can view the guttervac at omni-guttervac.com

[STEVE-UK]

Glyn , I was just looking at your site,
using a powerpole as a high pressure lance and fitting a  'Collett Adaptor to let you use brushes or accessories on 3rd or 4th pole' does this allow you to remove the thinner  top sections to make the pole lighter? if thats right what section does this part fit into or is it tapered to fit any section?

[Glyn H]

Steve
with the standard window cleaning or high pressure powerpole you can remove the top section and the tools will still fit as we supply a stepped connector to fit the top or secound pole. The collet adaptor lets you remove the second and third tube to lighten the pole when the full height is not required. It is also very handy if you want to put a lot of pressure on the opole say you were scrubbing graffiti off or using a scraper to remove concrete or a poster as the fourth tube is stronger and will not flex at all due to it incresed diameter.
Hope what I wrote makes sense

[STEVE-UK]

Cheers glyn , i will call tomorrow and order one

[Kevin R]

My word a bit of activity since I was here 

As Glyn says make the pole up on the ground (attach the hose as this protects the aluminum sections) and place the end into and against the base of the building, go to the other end and walk it up into position. Dont erect it by lifting it as you will bend it and strain yourself.

The black hose and bar was the first tool to come with the Omnivac, I prefer these tools to the flexible hose for 99% of work. I set it up like that as I like it that way . I'm not sure if thats how its supposed to be used but after a bit of experimentation I prefer that way. Its actually attached to the hose cuff.

Glyn maybe its time for a detailed instruction manual? I come from the age of walking large wfp poles up, but those days are almost over.

I also had Omnipole take an inner vac tube and cut it into three 2 ft pieces- this enables you to not double up the tubes at certain height- just join the outer sections together if that makes sense. It make the extended poles lighter.

The collet adaptor also is a must to make the powerpole lighter. Just remove the sections you dont need.

Sorry there are so many bits of kit, you will end up owning if you get into commercial. The Omnivac is complete enough for domestic work but once you start to use it at real height things become a little more complicated. Also remember once you enter the commercial world there are many many different profiles of gutter. I have had two gutters (custom built for that building) that I need specialist tools for. If this happens phone Omnipole, tell them what you need and they can make it, or will already have the solution. 

I hope that helps 

[Kevin R]

I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?

I had a serious look at all gutter vac systems available befor I decided on the Omnivac. I used all of them on a trial basis. They were all keen to show me how good they were on a house except Omnipole who were happy to demonstrate on commercial too.

My findings were most of the systems available are limited by height. Most will do the average house but not much higher. All are underpowered except one. The tooling is sadly lacking except for domestic gutters, except the tools of one company.

The best way to answer your questions is have a look at all the systems and make your own mind up. Would you buy a car without seeing it?

I did this a bought the Omnivac as it is leagues above the other machines for power, hose size, tooling and industrial quality parts. Omnipole have produced a system designed for all aplications of gutter cleaning, not just the domestic market.

I hope this helps 

[Kevin R]

The trouble when these threads turn sour is that the rest of us don't get the info.35ft is a lot of leverage, what is the answer?

That is not the case - the reason they go sour is some people prefer to be idiots. As you can see within this thread. I am not referring to you Discount!

As to pole question please see previous post.

[Mr H]

I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?

The DIY system using the SL2 base sections is the lightest system and can be used by 1 person at 60ft.
The Up-keeper doesn't go above 24ft.

Regards
Mr H