[Helen]

I don't know many people who enjoy their jobs - i know of very few who are on 50k a year and thats in a skilled trade. Surely the first post is a wind up?

You may be right

"but don't worry I doing alright money wise so i can treat meself a new toy if i want one" posted on June 27th 2008 by guess who.
 

[poleman]

I don't know many people who enjoy their jobs - i know of very few who are on 50k a year and thats in a skilled trade. Surely the first post is a wind up?

Well I enjoy my job and I am sure many on here do! I am not earning 50k but still have some way to go yet! only problem you will get when you are a high earner! the govment take it back with the top rate of tax being 40%

[john tomkins]

I don't know many people who enjoy their jobs - i know of very few who are on 50k a year and thats in a skilled trade. Surely the first post is a wind up?

You may be right

"but don't worry I doing alright money wise so i can treat meself a new toy if i want one" posted on June 27th 2008 by guess who.
 

And not just any old toy.... A 4x4 Hummer no less

[Simply Clean Windows]

Hi David
I am based in molesey,we do a lot of work in Esher,Oxshott,Cobham, i take it you are after the larger houses if you are leaflet dropping in cobham,we have found it very hard obtaining business around that way using leaflets,if you are serious i would advice you to advertise in the Elmbridge magazine which only goes out to the higher banded properties,this is where we achieved more success gaining clients,the other thing you could do is try to advertise at the American community school at cobham.
Hope this is some help.
Malcolm

[[GQC] Tim]

The most difficult thing which can really get you down is when there are so many other window cleaners in the area, that you struggle to get work.

It took me a long time to get where I want to, but I'm getting there, last two months were 2k, now I've got 1.3k month, I'm trying to canvass work, but it's not easy when your down.

[Glyn H]

£50,000 a year = £25.00 an hour 8 hours a day x 5 days a week
probably hard if your average house is only £5.00 but its only two £12.50 houses an hour.
So you need to have a Monthly round of about 320 houses @ £12.50

[Tosh]

£50,000 a year = £25.00 an hour 8 hours a day x 5 days a week
probably hard if your average house is only £5.00 but its only two £12.50 houses an hour.
So you need to have a Monthly round of about 320 houses @ £12.50

Does that factor in time off for sickness, holidays (or at least time off; non of us are machines), bad weather, Christmas, vehicle servicing, vehicle mending, and unavoidable family stuff like kids sports days, school open days, weddings and funerals?

I reckon to earn 50K per year you've got to earn at least £50 an hour!

Is that achievable?  Yes, for a couple of jobs; your best, but is it achieveable hour-on-hour, day-after-day, week-after-week, etc?

I doubt it!

[ftp]

I would agree with that if your mainly cleaning residential and are a sole trader. I think some of the commercial boys could get that quite easily. I have some commercial work that pays £50 an hour but i'm only small fry and only have a few of these jobs. If you could fill your round with them then big money is achievable.

[Clive McDonald]

£50,000 a year = £25.00 an hour 8 hours a day x 5 days a week
probably hard if your average house is only £5.00 but its only two £12.50 houses an hour.
So you need to have a Monthly round of about 320 houses @ £12.50

Does that factor in time off for sickness, holidays (or at least time off; non of us are machines), bad weather, Christmas, vehicle servicing, vehicle mending, and unavoidable family stuff like kids sports days, school open days, weddings and funerals?

I reckon to earn 50K per year you've got to earn at least £50 an hour!

Is that achievable?  Yes, for a couple of jobs; your best, but is it achieveable hour-on-hour, day-after-day, week-after-week, etc?

I doubt it!

46wks times 40hrs times £30 equals £55,200.

Working backwards from £50,000 divide by £30 divide by 46wks equals 36.23 hours. There fore if you work 36 hours for 46 wks at £30 ph you will hit £50,000. Don't forget you can always do a bit sat and sun morning if you find yourself falling behind.

Glyn's calulations are quite good althought I feel at least a third of those jobs for a new starter would be every eight weeks, therefore a one and a third times 320 is 425. I think 425 is a more realistic number for 50k pa. (although the smaller number would still generate a lot of extra's such as gutters etc which aren't included)

425 with an average value of £12.50 I would class as a good round for one person.

I note from the other thread on this topic how few know much about their own rounds and that quite a few do not own george. Some of the comments are supposed to be funny but they have no idea what they are really saying about themselves.

[smearo]

cobham might be worth doorknocking then guys if this guy is gonna give up cos cobham means money and that is the name of the game... dont give up yet mate start branching out of cobham there is still plenty of work out  there u gotta go find it.. good luck......

[ftp]

I don't know many people who enjoy their jobs - i know of very few who are on 50k a year and thats in a skilled trade. Surely the first post is a wind up?

You may be right

"but don't worry I doing alright money wise so i can treat meself a new toy if i want one" posted on June 27th 2008 by guess who.
 

£40 to £60 an hour in March 

[Joe Lauzon]

50k can be done in this trade, if you really want it, trad or wfp.  I don't make 50k, but thats choice.  I don't need to work that hard.  I could do it with around a 42 hour week.  In London it should be a piece of cake, 35 hours or less I would guess.

I really believe its just comes down to putting the effort in, its not rocket science.  Just takes motivation and effort.

[Oakley Windows]

50k can be done in this trade, if you really want it, trad or wfp.  I don't make 50k, but thats choice.  I don't need to work that hard.  I could do it with around a 42 hour week.  In London it should be a piece of cake, 35 hours or less I would guess.

I really believe its just comes down to putting the effort in, its not rocket science.  Just takes motivation and effort.

Ive worked outdoors for 30 years just about and can't remember the last year where I was able to average 42 hours a week, week after week after week, whatever the weather.

[Joe Lauzon]

That probably because you get in a set routine Matt.  You could do 12 hours a day, most days in the summer if you wanted to.  Go out and do some commercial stuff early...

Work Saturdays also.  Doing 60 hour weeks in the summer will soon make up for those 30 hour weeks in the winter.  Its there if anyone wants it, just takes effort.

I used to do 12 hour days when I was saving for my first house.  That was years ago, and I didn't have the quality of work I do now.  You will soon get used to it, you'd be surprised how many people work 60 or 70 hour weeks. 

[Glyn H]

£50,000 a year = £25.00 an hour 8 hours a day x 5 days a week
probably hard if your average house is only £5.00 but its only two £12.50 houses an hour.
So you need to have a Monthly round of about 320 houses @ £12.50

Tosh wrote
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Is that achievable?  Yes, for a couple of jobs; your best, but is it achieveable hour-on-hour, day-after-day, week-after-week, etc?

I doubt it!

No I made it up for a laugh our best paying job is £10.00 and our window cleaning  staff get paid a full weeks wages for only working four or five hours a day when they feel like it and we dont work when its raining,windy, snowing or too hot or if we think it would be nice to sit in and watch the TV that day 

[R.V.A Window Cleaning Services]

Stop whinning get out there and aim for your goal. Work hard pay well or 9am till 1pm your problem. i'm getting a bit fed with people saying i'm not earning this & i've no work coming in. Grow up the work was there before today, you have just lost work eaither because you have got to greedy or didn't turn up on time or couldn't be bothered with that £5 clean at the end of the day. Credit crunch my arse

Can I nominate this as most arrogant unhelpful post of the week? :

David, I know where you're coming from, it's the same for me.
Stupid posts like the one above aren't going to help you feel any better.
Just read the friendly posts and let that sort of thing go over your head.

Swap my problems for yours anyday, unhelpfull  NO . if being honest is arrogant then yes .

Me lost an eye , one daughter died, one daughter dying wife hates me most of the time, i work hard for them up early work all day or looking for more work, up to my neck in work, family away for 3 weeks, me i'm still working.

Please don't feel sorry for me as this wasn't self made like the other sorry sods and there self pity stories on here , why am i telling you this, god only knows proberbly because i'm fed up with you whinning lazy -------------------------------

[Ian_Giles]

I think you need to be working at a £1.00 per minute worked to be able to get up to 50k per year.
You won't be working at an hourly rate of £60 an hour though, as time is always lost through the day, and few will actually work a traditional 8 hour day, let alone a 40 hour week!

For 50k you have to be averaging £200 a day, and that takes some doing for most of us, for one thing it means you must have many days where you turn over way more than that, cos you are also going to have days when you do way less.

It can be done though, but usually takes several years of building and honing your round.

Ian

[Oakley Windows]

That probably because you get in a set routine Matt. 

No, I think my approach to it is far from that, if only to be honest (routine, is what I need and love, but have? nope,) just think Im possibly more realistic. Ian has summed up mostly what I think on this.


But.........

It can be done though, but usually takes several years of building and honing your round.
Ian

and a wish to have very little or anything else in your life. Me? I go away too many times a year diving to be able to play that much catch up anyway.

[sgibsoncleaning]

I have been cleaning windows for a while now... money wise I am just getting by.

I have been putting flyer out in cobham, surrey 20 min away from where i live for a while hoping to get some more work plus more money too but the phone is dead and it all starting to get me down.

All i am good at is cleaning windows so there is no point me packing in windows cleaning otherwise I will be in the Sxxt.

All I want in life is to earn 50k a year which i have got no chance in doing so in cleaning window.

Just wanted to get it off my chest.


do you think work comes to you.
how high is your expectations.
i have no qualifications so what job would i get in the world.
the work is out there, so get out and find it. how do you expect to set big targets and do very little to reach them.

 

[prestigeclean]

cobham should be a gold mine , loads of big houses , you need to get on the knocker and go for it , personally i started in this business in february last year and i,m currently averaging £875.00 per week on domestic , now some will think i,m boasting but my point in posting is to show its acheivable in a relatively short time , when i first started i knock and knock and knocked the doors i now have someone i pay to do it and i,m starting another canvasser tomorow , my goals are high in this business and i will achieve them by the end of the year , by the way i thought the youtube clip was good , but then maybe thats the difference between some of us on here , the doers and the moaners comes to mind , positive mental attitude works every time regards alan