dont know about any of you, but i hate credit facilities and i will do anything to avoid it, pay cash ect, wouldn't it be good if suppliers had a pay it up savings book, where you paid in what ever you had spare every week or month, until we came up with the full amount to buy what ever it is you want especially if it costs a few hundred quid, i just think this is something the suppliers should think about, i would pay so much by direct debit, to the supplier of my choice no problem, suppliers have nothing to lose by doing this, i think we need this type of savings club, for the hard times ahead