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d s windowcleaning

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slx/facelift
« on: August 02, 2008, 12:03:02 am »
how many wfp users have used both the slx and facelift poles which do you like most and why? thanks  :)
where theres muck theres money

NWH

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 12:38:47 am »
I have both poles of nearly equivalent length and much prefer the faclift,my personal preference of course and others may not agree but have the others that have the SLX also owned a facelift.I find the clamps on the facelift pole far easier to use,the sections don`t spin therefore the clamps stay in position ie in a straight line.Weight wise theres hardly any difference and if there is it`s not really noticable,my facelift is cut down slightly and is the same closed as the SLX.

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 08:40:19 am »
Macmac used to worship facelifts, but now I think he uses the SL-X, in bed with it I think was his choice of words.  I wonder if he will give his opinion. 

Simon.

ftp

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 08:47:10 am »
Is there a big difference in price?

pingu

Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 08:48:39 am »
Have a Facelift c/f 44ft and the SL-X but have to admit I prefer the Facelift at the moment...perhaps that is because I have used the Facelift for longer...

Time will tell...but the clamps on the Facelift are my favorite of the both styles...

Cheers
Dave.


trevor perry

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 08:52:47 am »
i used to have a facelift but didnt really get along with it but i really like the slx definately the best pole i have had so far but everyone has different priorities in what they expect from a pole so views will differ.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Tristan R Clean

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 12:51:31 pm »
The beauty of the SLX is that it is shorter when closed.

I have been able to do away with my roof rack and put pole inside(Transit Connect 220 low roof)

no rack = Cheaper on fuel .

I have owned a lot of poles and the SLX and SL2 are by far the best.


Tris

macmac

Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 01:43:57 pm »
Having them both, here is my oppinion & why-

The slx falls between two sizes of facelift poles. Slx is an actual 25ft in extended length, facelift 24ft (actual 21ft) & facelift 30ft (actual 27ft) & there is a big difference in useability between these two f/l poles lengths.

Clamps- f/l clamps are superb & very easy to use BUT the downside to them is that each clamp adds approx 100mm to the closed length of the pole. The slx clamps are also superb once fine tuned (very easy process with an allen key) but do require more getting used to. However, the slx clamps add very little to the closed length of the pole & i would suggest are stronger than the facelift clamps although my f/l clamps have never failed in approx 20 months of very hard use & abuse.

Slx  Vs  21ft facelift=

Weight wise there is not much in it, nothing worth considering. Rigidity, again, nothing much in it but i feel the slx is a tad more rigid in use.

Useability- both very useable poles but the slx wins on it's shorter closed length & extra 4 feet in extended length. Also the slx, for me anyway, with a plastic angle neck + swivel can do every bottom window on my round where as the f/l is a tad too long for some but can do the majority.

Slx  Vs  27ft facelift=

Weight wise there is now a very noticeable difference, the slx is much lighter. Rigidity, the slx is also quite a lot more rigid now.

Useability- Here the slx wins hands down, the closed f/l is far too long for bottom windows & is not IMO an all day pole. The slx still has the same closed length but the f/l is two feet longer- extended. There is a very big difference in useability between these two poles with the slx blowing the f/l into the weeds!
The extra (actual) two feet that the f/l has, no where near out-weighs all the extra benefits of the slx.

Summary & considerations-

Both superb poles, top quality, both very well built & robust, but for me the slx wins hands down. The slx is a pole of actual 25ft which is a superb, very useable length. It's very well balanced, has a very short closed length, even when fully closed it balances perfectly for bottom windows & IS useable all day long from ground floor up to 29 ish feet! Add to that, it's very light, rigid & cheaper than the facelift! On the side of the facelift though is the ability to go higher by just adding extra sections, although i would imagine gardiners are probably developing extra sections for the slx?

Also i don't look after my poles, i throw them about & hardly ever clean them, they are my workhorse. I've had the facelift for approx 20 months & the slx since it's release. Both have stood up so far to daily hard use & abuse although i only use the facelift now for anything above 30ft (as mine is the 44ft carbon). I stated that the slx is cheaper than the facelift BUT i havent recently checked facelift's prices, so i'm assuming they havent reduced their prices.

This is my considered, honest oppinion. hope it helps. ;)

Tony

[GQC] Tim

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 02:51:58 pm »
Wow, that is the best mini review of SL-X and Facelift Tony, excellent, I haven't used a Facelift, but from your experience I would say that the SL-X is more versatile, the perfect pole.

I've totally tuned in to the clamps on the slx, I find them a joy to work with. :)

NWH

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 05:53:03 pm »
Length makes no difference,if your fussy about poles and brushes like i am and can afford it you can cut a facelift down to any closed size you like.You can get a facelift with 5 sections and cut it down to 4.5ft closed if you like,we don`t know the longevity of the SLX yet time will tell but my facelift is 2.5 years old and is as the day i got it.

d s windowcleaning

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Re: slx/facelift
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 07:36:53 pm »
great review tony looks like i minght be adding the slx to my kit soon .
where theres muck theres money