[NWH]

see to me more important than anything is the hourly rate and i would want to see that.

I mean say it brings in 800 a month it earns 15 a hour i would laugh in is face but if it brings in 30- 40 a hour than i would say it was proberly worth it.

Hourly rate is not a good indicater IMHO !  Price per house is what I look for !

My thoughts to,hourly rate in some cases mean nothing i would rather do a few houses a day for the same money for working 8 hours on an hourly rate and end up with the same at the end of it.I price per job the price i want for that particular job,i`ve said before you can clean loads and loads of windows in an hour and by pricing that way you can do yourself out of money when you break it down.When you go out in the morning on an hourly rate you will always end up with the same each day regardless of how hard you work,if you price per job and really graft it will earn you more everytime,just my opinion.

[ronnie paton]

i didnt say when quoting i quote hourly rate i quote per window but if you need to know the capabilities of what the round can earn per hour to say what its worth, some times im sure poeple just disagree to have an argument.

[mr merson]

i didnt say when quoting i quote hourly rate i quote per window but if you need to know the capabilities of what the round can earn per hour to say what its worth, some times im sure poeple just disagree to have an argument.

I have bought and sold rounds ! so i have some experience with this , Hourly rate is a big no no ! Reason is we all work at diff speeds ! You have to look at prices of property !

[ronnie paton]

ok mr merson you must be an expert :

i mean iv never bought a round and im not running a succesful business :

You use hourly rate either way if you look at the individual price and think i can do 4 a hour that equals?

most business(including mine) know how much i need to earn to make b4 i start making a profit it makes it easier to work out a hourly rate to see the daily profit.

yes some people work faster than others but if you work it with him you will see how fast he is to you!!

I do like to think i know what im talking about i think my profits say i do

[birdymiller]

But surely when you price up a job you think about how long it is going to take. When i price up a job its all about time not how many windows it has. Sure you count the windows and how many times you climb ladder( if you use one) or access issues or frotnightly/monthly. These all effect price but i always like to do the house and then tell them how much. At first i always say roughly £X. After having a snoop around the house and have a little chat you get to know a bit about custy and how much they can afford.

[cvdewsbury]

buying a round is all down to your experience you look at some work thinks its easy  enough and already have a figure in mind what you would clean the houses for, if the chap tells you the prices are £1/£2.00 up on your figure you buy,I would only then beable to calculate my hourly rate from actually cleaning the jobs....

so ronnie and jonah you are both right one leads to the other in my book.

[mr merson]

I am nothing like an expert Ronnie ! I do business like i do mate   I only try to give advice on here  : My phone is going all the time with people wanting a piece of me !  Quite frankly I dont do stress too well !  I try to help people getting new business , but if I am honest it isnt worth all the hassle /stress ! I dont charge for helping my friends , but after helping them , I feel pretty empty after they dont even thank me !  

[ronnie paton]

from what iv seen you say on here no wonder they dont thank you

Good night im off to the dom republic in the morning

[alanwilson]

the seller wants x8 - so it will be the ninth month before the round starts to make a profit.

I'd like to think someone canvassing would be able to accumulate more than 800 quid of work in that time, without any outlay.

the only thing going for the round is that it is compact.

Not worth the asking price in my opinion.

[davids3511]

i didnt say when quoting i quote hourly rate i quote per window but if you need to know the capabilities of what the round can earn per hour to say what its worth, some times im sure poeple just disagree to have an argument.

I have bought and sold rounds ! so i have some experience with this , Hourly rate is a big no no ! Reason is we all work at diff speeds ! You have to look at prices of property !

Look at the price of the property and compare it to what exactly? How long it will take to do the job, which is just a longwinded hourly rate.

[mr merson]

A business is only worth however much somone is prepared to buy it for ! I have seen rounds selling for a huge ammount , and others  almost given away !  I have always asked top money for ones I have sold , and havnt had any problems, but we are all different I guess 

[ALAN HAYNES]

there is a round for sale in rugby now
takes 900 aweek for ten thousand plus you get a small van with that and trad gear

[windowcleanertrad]

ronnie paton,
ive had a few pathetic attempts on posts from you. every time you post you seem to want to start an argument of a nasty kind, you do seem to enjoy putting people down, i cant find a positive post from you except when your supporting your mates which seems to be not that many. could you go away perhaps not post anymore, the site would probably be a bit happier, or just leave my threads alone, why are you like this, mummy mean to you as a child, god not love you, tell us all whats really at the bottom of these obvious problems.

[mr merson]

Windowcleanertrad , You could do very well if you advertise it on Window cleaning recourses mate  I will try to find the link for you 

[windowcleanertrad]

bump 

[Gordon Saunders]

 I personally wouldnt sell my round for anything less than 5 times its monthly turnover and i am pretty sure i would get that for it too.
  Having said that my round is NOT for sale.
 I think some window cleaners undervalue their rounds.
 Who was it decided that a domestic rounds are worth 3x monthly turnover anyway.
   G

[birdymiller]

Supply and demand mate. If theres loads of work to choose from then the price will be low if there arent many rounds for sale the price will be high.

[ronnie paton]

you obviously know nothing you will find iv helped plenty given things away and free advice.

i was stating that the price your asking would all depend on potential hourly earnings if it was say 15 a hour it would be worth no were near that and if it was 30 then mayb so.

i live local to darwin and actually work there so if you really have some thing to say than give me a call.

to many people come on here for an argument a come on here for help to help and to keep ubdated with new things, but i will tell it has it is so go and read all my post properly and youll find your taliking with a mouth full of spanners.

you talk cr@p im affraid now im back to my pina colda in dominican so you can start an argument with your self.

[windowcleanertrad]

sorry but again your being nasty, is there any need. to be honest it actually sounded like a threat. i hope the moderators have taken note. hope you enjoy your holiday and come back a bit more relaxed.

[trevor perry]

i think it is time we forget this thread .windowcleanertrad first took offence that i mentioned 8x for a round was to much sorry if i offended you , ronnie paton then defended my comments and it seems to of spiralled downhill from there.
  we are obviously all local to this area but dont know each other personally surely this forum is to help one another and not start personal attacks ronnie has posted some very good helpful posts in his time on here unfortunately i cant read your posts windowcleanertrad as you are posting as a guest but i am sure you too have many helpfull comments to make ,on my post about 8x i was not having a go you know your own work and what you think it is worth if someone buying thinks it is worth the same and buys it then both parties are happy and it has nothing to do with me.
  over the last few months we have lost some really good members on this forum due to arguments getting out of control and becoming threatening one member a john garnett from fleetwood had loads of interesting posts and helpfull advice but no longer posts his comments are really missed so lets nip this in the bud before anything similar happens.
   we are all local so if ever you want to meet for a chat or need help in anyway then that is the way i would prefer things. life is to short and i dont want to make any enemies over things so petty.