[kinder clean]

I have a commercial job next week cleaning some fabric sofas, when I've cleaned domestic suites I have always used OneStep fineline M/S but wanted to go out and buy something with a bit more wack, as some looked pretty grubby. I use a CFR upholstery tool which I find excellent and I like to pre spray my chemicals.

So whats the best chemical to buy for this purpose?

Paul

[Jason Hedges]

Hi Paul,

I use prochems fabric restorer followed up with fibre & fabric rinse. Spray, let dwell and rinse after 10 or so mins.

Most of the time no need for agitation unless really trashed.

Cuts work time down compared to using m/s and having to agitate everything and eats up grease and stubborn dirt first time around.

All the best,
Jason.

[kinder clean]

Hi Jason

Thanks for that - I've never used a rinsing agent in the machine before, If I only used water to rinse would there be Consequences ?

Paul

[Jason Hedges]

Hi Paul,

Fabric restorer is ph9 so by using fibre and fabric rinse (ph4) will neutralise leaving fabric fairly much ph neutral.

I wouldn't use a plain water rinse after fabric restorer the ph needs bringing down, plain water rinses are ok after using microsplitters as thats what their designed for and their close to ph neutral already.

All the best,
Jason.

[Straker Cleaning]

Citrus fabric pre wash is very effective and has extra bite ......... still part of the Alltec Healthy Home range 

[JimKhor]

fabric restorer has always worked for me with an acid rinse. though i do always attemp it with fineline first.

[markpowell]

Ultrapac renovate and rinse with f/f rinse
mark

[Simon Gerrard]

Prochem Pure Clean.

Kinder,
Why don't you use anything in your machine to rinse?


Simon

[John Gregory]

Simon

This lad has been trading for about 2 weeks , he knows as much about carpet cleaning as you no about dogging in Coventry

  John

[TommyB]

Paul,
You have done some training before going out to do cleaning peoples valauble furnishings?
Why do you rinse with water? and yes it will have consequences if your using alkaline chemicals, you do know what they are dont you
Tom

[Simon Gerrard]

Dogging, what's that?

Simon

[jacko]

Always use Microsplit from Craftex. For the head & arm grease i mist Solutions Special Spotter on (replaced ECOspotter).

To be honest have never used conventional chemicals. But always use Prochem Fibre & Fabric Rinse - it leaves fibres in great condition.

Would maybe try something else if made job easier (like no agitation)....

[Mark Lane-Matthews]

Hydramasters natural orange for me.
                                                Mark

[kinder clean]

Yes I did training but the guy was all for M/S cleaning, he told us the only thing that should go into your machine is water and up till now the results i've been getting have more than satisfied myself and my customers, but I did a grubby suite a couple of weeks back and really had to go some to move the heavy grime, so I thought with this being a "cleaners forum" where better to ask for advise.

Besides our "training" which for most of us is a 2-4 day course, it only really starts when you get out there, like any other job its hands on experience where you gain the knowledge.

There are of course the odd exception to this rule who were simply born a cleaning god.  :

Paul   

[Joe H]

You are doing alright with the questions Paul.
Presume you know why the training guy advised only water in your clean tank - that is to protect the pump against settlement of undisoved powder and chemicals that can harm the pump seals and bits.

Truckmounters usually have an integrated post pump spray device so its no big problem to them pre spray or to rinse without anything passing thro the pump itself.

You too can buy an attachement to do that if you wanted - bit like the device that you can fit on the end of your garden hose that sucks up a liquid fertiliser from a conainer and mixes it with the water as it exits the spray point - except it can be up to couple hundred pound new.

[*paul_moss]

I extract about 90% of my jobs with fresh water.
Its only on really bad trashed ones that I use a chemical booster in the rinse.

[Simon Gerrard]

Paul,
Given that you are a newbie I should have given you a more thorough answer.
If you're going to be cleaning commercial upholstery then you have to be ready to do whatever it takes to get things clean. Prochem Pure Clean is a good place to start, but it might be necessary to spray the arm caps with fabric restorer and quite literally scrub it in. If it's restaurant seating you may need Powerburst to shift the grease which is often heavily engrained and that too might need to be scrubbed in to get a perfect result. You can also use brightening additives to bring out the colours a bit.
The problem is that if you're only using water in your machine then you cannot use the likes of Powerburst because it is a quite strong alkaline and needs to be acid rinse with PC's Fibre & Fabric Rinse or HM's Clearwater Rinse, both of which a liquids.

You have to experiment at bit with the first chair of each type and find a way to unlock the soil. And don't forget, quality is in the detail, If you don't get the piping, seams and difficult to get at pieces they will stand out like a sore thumb when the fabric dries.

Simon

[richie]

Prochem Pure Clean is FANTASTIC on carpets & upholstery.  MS are suited to light or medium soiled carpets/upholstery.  Prochem Fabris Restoror is a amazing upholstery cleaner,  it must be rinsed with a acid rinse though as should all high Ph chemicals or you could mist over the carpet / fabric with the acid rinse.  Adding Prochem or HM acid rinse agents to your machine will help keep parts clean and keep your machine scale free from hard water deposits.

Richie.

[Straker Cleaning]

Must admit to loving my Minitex for upholstery ........... especially grubby arms 

[Jim_77]

Nice nail varnish Simon