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magic_carpet

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2650 sq meters flotex price??
« on: January 27, 2005, 06:39:17 pm »
big job. how much would you charge??? and how would you do it. Method??
2650 sq meters or around 26500sq/ft there is some desks & chairs to be moved but not to much.
it's 95% flotex throughout a school.
job will lead on to other big contracts but it does rather tie up my time.
this one is to be done twice a year. i reckon i can do it in 5 days with truckmount and scrubba.
but how to price???
help
jim

martin19842

  • Posts: 1945
Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 08:47:39 pm »
hi there,

you might want to PM DAVE555, he may be able to provide some good information.

regards

martin

Mike Halliday

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2005, 08:01:03 am »
this has bean read 61 times and its quite easy for anyone to answer ::) but no one wants to say how much they charge.

if it'll take a week then I'd charge betreen £1600-£2000 if I went on the area around £2200.

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

magic_carpet

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 09:03:53 am »
thanks for the help.
i know it's a hard one to ask. i have it down to around £1600 but i know they are going to beat me up over the price. now i have some idea what others would charge i can stand firm.
i have the chance of many more of these jobs. up to 47 i believe it's going to kill me.
anyone need some work??

Karl Wildey

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 10:59:41 am »
Who wants an extra £2,000 of work?

Everyone say yeah!!!

woodman

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 12:27:20 pm »
Hi Jim

I would use Texatherm, safe on Flotex and very quick drying.

You would cover the ground a lot quicker using this system and with less strain.

Where are you located and what areas are the other sites in?

Mike Halliday

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2005, 12:35:12 pm »
Woodman, he did'nt just ask how, he also asked how much ;)

how muck to Texatherm this amount of carpet?

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Phil Marlor

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2005, 02:28:12 pm »
Is it me but I cant believe some of these quotes.

2650 sq mtrs is a very large area, I was thinking somewhere in the region of £4000.00.

A school fitted with flotex is going to be really badly soiled, Flotex is hard work using HWE and some Flotex can look no different visually (spell) after it has been cleaned.

Certainly wouldnt do it for less than £3000.00, you are going to need help on an area this big.

Good luck

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

woodman

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2005, 02:36:59 pm »
Hi Mike,

The area he is cleaning, if definitely Flotex is over £30k worth of carpet.

I would be around the 3K mark for a one off, if he gets all 47 then that would drop to around £1600 as already mentioned which I think is about the right figure for a large contract like this (maybe even less to secure).

I agree with Phil that he would need help which he has already identified himself.

But as I have already mentioned I would not HWE it.

mark_roberts

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2005, 04:26:20 pm »
Didnt think Texatherm worked on flotex or any rotary for that matter??????

For this I would price around £3000, based on my hourly rate, but I have a portable and would dread doing this job.

It sounds like a good opportunity but it could also break you existing business relationships/contracts.

If I where you I'd get a few cleaners together and get it all done in two days.

Mark

woodman

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2005, 05:37:36 pm »
Try it on your next Flotex job Mark

Up the prespray a bit and clean as normal you'll be amazed.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2005, 05:41:43 pm »
TCS actively promote their Texatherm machine and system as being suitable for use on Flotex.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Gavin Reardon

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2005, 05:56:07 pm »
Hi Guys

I agree with Ken TCS do promote their Texetherm system for use on Flotex.

When I had demo He did it on flotex, and i use it on Flotex always looks great.

Gavin
Gavin Reardon IICRC / NCCA

www.ace-cleaning.co.uk

magic_carpet

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2005, 06:54:18 pm »
god you guy are chatty tonight.
no reply yesterday then the flood gates open.
thanks for all your post. i must admit i had woundered if tex or dry fus might be better, i have never seen either working before  , who is best to contact for a demo??. however the people that i am contracted to have already tryed other cleaners and systems and they want me to get it done.  i cleaned this school as a one off for them two years ago so they know my system works!!
thanks again
jim

Ken Wainwright

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2005, 07:00:56 pm »
Jim

Not adviseable to use Dry Fusion on Flotex. Could damage the machine.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

magic_carpet

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2005, 07:10:58 pm »
ken
what is the differance between Texetherm and dry fusion. stupid me i thought they where roughtly generic versions of each other.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2005, 07:22:20 pm »
Jim

Although they both give good cleaning results, the chemistry and the machines are quite different.  From memory, the Texatherm just cleans using (I think) an alkaline pre spray and a hot acidic bonnet/rinse. The Dry Fusion System uses a higher rpm machine with an added heater, the cleaning solutions are pH neutral and they clean, de-odourise, heat dry and Stain Protect all in the one operation. An alternative chemical is available which will do all of the above but also heat bond an anti-microbial to the fibre surface too.

safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Chris R

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2005, 07:37:11 pm »
How much chewing gum or blue tac on the carpets ???

Can be a nightmare doing school carpets, damn stuff everywhere!

It all depends how busy you are, will you lose other regular customers because you are tied up on this job(s)?

I wouldnt take it on myself, better suited to a large company with many staff.

Have a good think about it  ;)
Chris
Staffordshire

magic_carpet

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Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2005, 07:48:00 pm »
chris
not much of either-tac or gum
and yes your right my nice (have a cup of tea) high value get to see a lot of the country side work has to be taken into account. as for the larger company should do it -- well hopefully one day soon, that will be my company!!!
jim

paul@ctcs

Re: 2650 sq meters flotex price??
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2005, 08:20:05 pm »
To cover this type of work I prefer to work with a small team of 3.

One of the 3 to keep things ticking over, water, waste and pre spray all topped up, etc. So no hold ups.

The second to apply pre spray (microsplitters) and aggitate with a rotary and either charlie pads or bonnets.

With all soiling loosened this simply leaves me to extract at a decent pace.

Regarding the time taken, it is hard to say without seeing it with my own eyes, but at a guess 3 days and a price in the region of £1600 to £1800.


Paul