[[GQC] Tim]

Why aren't brushes equipped with 4 pencil jets? It's quite difficult when rinsing to not let the brush touch the window frame when scrubbin/rinsing, trying to get in the corners. It's not so much a problem with sheeting glass, but with beading, it's difficult to rinse all the way in the corners.

Only been using wfp for a month or so, but this is something I noticed. Yes you wouldn't get it with fan jets, but you can't accurately enough rinse with it I think, never used it, but can't see it working in quite a few situations.

Any ideas?

[windowwashers]

Why aren't brushes equipped with 4 pencil jets? It's quite difficult when rinsing to not let the brush touch the window frame when scrubbin/rinsing, trying to get in the corners. It's not so much a problem with sheeting glass, but with beading, it's difficult to rinse all the way in the corners.

Only been using wfp for a month or so, but this is something I noticed. Yes you wouldn't get it with fan jets, but you can't accurately enough rinse with it I think, never used it, but can't see it working in quite a few situations.

Any ideas?

I have not problem with pencil jets cleaning glass only, it is because you have no experience m8 IMO thats all,

I clean the frames when cleaning the glass anyway, but if I didnt I still would not would have the problem you are talking about, you need to learn point and aim having 4 jets you would be even worse imo more is not always better. Master what you have first.
Walk before you try and run 

Ian

[Kevin R]

Use the force luke 

As Ian says its just practice, you will be able to aim those jets anywhere and very accurately with just a bit of practice.

What brush are you using? try something different if your really unhappy 

[Londoner]

It takes a certain amount of water going through a jet to produce a stream of water. More jets require more water. Most of us are limited by the amount of water we can carry.
I went the other way and blanked off one of my jets for a while to get a good force with less water. That worked. 

[pingu]

I have got to admit Tim that 4 jets does sound good....but in all honesty I have found that the 2 jets are more than enough for me...but what is to say that if you modify a brush with 2 additional jets if wont have it's use's...perhaps some sort of isoloation valve to go from 2 to 4 jets might help....try it lets us know your finding's...perhaps it will be the next WFP sensation..

Cheers and good luck

Dave.

[Mr H]

4 jets also means slightly more expense and fewer brissles on the brush.

Saying that though, I do think a 4 pencil jet brush would be good for conservatory roofs, as a higher flow rate is very important due to the lower angle of the glass. Might try doing that over the weekend.....

Regards
Mr H

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Someone on here made a brush with 4 1mm pencil jets, it look really good.  I think as well if you do the maths that 4 1mm pencil jets will use less water than 2 2mm pencil jets.  The jets were placed at the top of the brush from what I remember.  Who was that guy with the 88ft pole.

Simon.

[Dave Turley]

that would  be jeff brimble

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

doh

Of cousre.

[s.w.c]

well horses for course really , i got a  brushes with four jets in them, a set of fan jets then a set of pencils, they don't use all together, its to save the amount of brushes i need to take as this can cover the need for fan jets or can be switched to pencils all with john Roberts push-fits from cleantech, i mostly use pencils but some morning i do some shops early and fan jets are better for these in my opinion, then i switch to pencils for the rest of the day, so all in all i got one pole one brush for the whole day pole is 23ft but when closed its just under five foot, don't get me wrong i got more poles and brushes than most i just got fed up carrying different poles with different brushes it got to many , so i came up with this solution one pole one brush an if higher pole is needed i take my modular that's all i need.

[Nathanael Jones]

Don't Emporiums brushes have 4 jets?

If you use 4X 1.5mm pencil jets you'll get pretty much the same flow as 2x 2mm jets.

[Dave Turley]

I had the first emporium pole sold and it came with a bentley brush and 2 pencil jets.

not sure what they come with now though

[prestigeclean]

i use the 4 pencil jet vikan from emporium and can recommened it , the brush is a bit heavy and at first iwas using more water but i turned the varistream down and my water usage is similar to before , you can work at speed with this brush as theres far less rinsing , great brush try it regards alan

[Jeff Brimble]

Two sprays on left, two pencils on right. Have tried 2/4/6/8 jets but found 4 to be ok. More jets means less flow.

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[prestigeclean]

fao electric , what do you use now regards alan

[Jeff Brimble]

4 Hozelock micro irrigation jets with low pressure water.

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[prestigeclean]

that sounds very interesting electric what brush are they on regards alan

[Jeff Brimble]

Any brush you like. Just fit them to jet over the top edge of the bristle, press and they go through the bristle or dont press and they go ott to rinse.
Emporium are the only 4 jets off the shelf or diy. The Hozelocks have an internal vortex system to create a perfect pencil jet.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Any brush you like. Just fit them to jet over the top edge of the bristle, press and they go through the bristle or dont press and they go ott to rinse.
Emporium are the only 4 jets off the shelf or diy. The Hozelocks have an internal vortex system to create a perfect pencil jet.

Where do you get them from?  And do you use 3 y pieces or can you get a 5way splitter?

Simon.

[Jeff Brimble]

Search for "Hozelock micro irrigation" I use the green ones. Or go to a good gardening shop, they come in packets of 10 for approx £4.70
Drill 4x6mm holes at the same angle as the bristles and screw fit them into the micro hose.