[markpowell]

Is it me or is there another carpet cleaning forum that seems to brain wash its members with scorpion machies and   M Power at every opportunity, unlike this one where you get good honest advice at all times???
Mark

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

tick tock tick tock

[Len Gribble]

Mark

There is another one moderated by? Haven’t been there for a few years so still could be, out of interest just requested a password.

Why the site you mentioned doesn’t like me god knows, perhaps personas non-grater or he speaks with forked tong.

Bring this up you could classed as a stall pigeon (no offence intented)

Len

[Joe H]

Is it me or is there another carpet cleaning forum that seems to brain wash its members with scorpion machies and   M Power at every opportunity, unlike this one where you get good honest advice at all times???
Mark

You might be suprised, Mark, how many from CIU frequent Cleantalk - it was Cleantalk you were referring to? Yes!

and no we dont talk about Scorpions ALL the time, there are plenty other things relating to carpet cleaning, leather cleaning and hard floor maintenance being dicussed.
Obviously you dont know what you are missing - glad I dont wear blinkers.

[markpowell]

Joe i never mentioned Cleantalk, why would you assume that :
Mark

[Darren O]

When people on cleantalk come out with statements like the "dark old days when using detergents"i think that just sums the forum up.Think most of them live in there own wee green buble.Also now they are trying to say using heat is bad for carpets.

[Joe H]

Mark - OK I did make an assumption - was I right or wrong?

but also I did ask a question "it was Cleantalk you were refering to?"

Was it Cleantalk or not?

[PaulKing]

YES DAMM YOU... TALK We have ways of making you talk!

Have no idea what i did but cannot get on to CLean Talk for last two years and application to register never get dealt with, guess I'm just too damm sexy for them!

[gwrightson]

one wrong word ,
and thats it .

i was warned , did nothing wrong imo    

still dont want to on there anyway , ..........mind I did like eco spotter.

geoff

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Geoff

Eco Spotter was a Solutions Germany product along with Charley pads etc.

It's quite possible someone else will import them.

Cheers

Doug

[stevegunn]

One steps zap it was re-formulated to be like eco spotter

[gwrightson]

yes Doug

I was hoping somebody did,

does anybody know the exact make up of eco spotter, A good friend of mine works for bp in the labs and reckons he can make about any thing

he said they used to produce isopronal  ,
he called it I P A  is this similar stuff/ does any body know

Geoff

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Geoff

IPA, iso propo alcohol, just another name for propan2ol, it proper chemical name.

I add isopropanol to MS, (Prochem Pureclean dissolved in water), never used eco spotter but I bet thats not far from the ingredients.

Cheers

Doug

[john rees]

Geoff
        Get youself some isopropanol works every bit as good as eco spotter. I bought a 25litre container from a guy on ebay and I paid £20 for it! as soon as it runs out I'll get some more but I doubt I will get it that cheap again! I just had a quick look on ebay and there's a 25litre on there for £70 with the postage, so it still works out a lot cheaper than eco spotter.

                All the best
                                 John

[Ken Wainwright]

I believe that Eco Spotter was a blend of 4 different alcohols, one of them being wood alcohol.

The last 5 litres of IPA that I bought was from a printers supply company. They use it for cleaning printinge plates etc. Can't remember how much, but it wasn't a lot.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Bob Robertson]

Doug
 
Your thoughts on this please.

I done a job for an elderly lady the other day who worked for Bell dyeworks as a stain remover on clothes and rugs. She was telling me the things she used or could remember.

Carbon tetrachloride- grease,oil .
Amyl acetate - paint.
Chloroform & ether - lipstick.
Acetone- nail varnish.
Glycerine - coffee.
Methelated spirits (clear) - Ink.
Trichlorothane - dry cleaner.
Perchlorothane - good for tweed.
Oxalic acid - grass stains , yellow stains.
Amonia - ?
Benzine - ?
Apply peroxide and hang out in sunlight - burn marks.

Bob

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Ken

Wood alcohol is methanol, I would expect isopropanol would be the largest alcohol component.

The alcohols go up by how many Carbon atoms so there is methanol, ethanol, propanol etc, the larger molecules having higher boiling points etc.

A mixture will give a wider range of solubility but they are obviously going to be similar.

The big advantage is that they are polar so will dissolve in water allowing them to be mixed with MS, sodium tripolyphosphate.

Cheers

Doug

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Bob,

Carbon Tet, trichloro ethylene, perchloroethylene, all chlorinated hydrocarbons which have fallen foul of H&S as has benzene.Dichloromethane, Nitromors is the best chlorinated hydrocarbon still available.

Chloroform and ether , you cant buy as restricted use because of its ability to knock people out.

Acetone still used for nail varnish , can be quite good on inks.

Methylated spirits is ethanol with some methanol added to stop all but the most desperate from drinking it !, probably part of eco spotter, from what Ken was saying.

Amyl Acetate is in Chemspec POG

Oxalic acid is a reducing agent I currently use sodium metabisulphite but yellows are a problem, so will have to try.

Glycerine haven't tried on coffee but I have some so will.

Cheers

Doug

[Bob Robertson]

Cheers Doug

Let us know how you get on . Thought a few would be banned now as she was in her late eighties.

Bob

[Len Gribble]

Joe

and hard floor maintenance being discussed! Think they may need my expertise can you put a good word in with them, pioneer eclipse products are good dam I’m band before I can log in.

Geoff

Some one is considering importing it, already put my order in.

Len