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[Joe Lauzon]

I bought it simply because I thought I would make more money.  Safety wasn't a consideration for me.  I'd been working 13 years without a fall or accident.  Perhaps one was round the corner though, who knows.

[NWH]

If i wanted to massage ego`s on here i would say that it`s because it`s safer and it does a lovely job on the frames lol,if i was telling you the truth i would say it`s because i earn loads more money and i don`t get tired to much anymore.99.9% of people go WFP for the money the other .1% is lying.

[m.b.s.]

i would say because its faster so more money also i am getting older and wiser now and have family so i would now say safety as well i would be no good to my family in a wheel chair if worst come to the worst  

[Sir Squeaky]

I bought it simply because I thought I would make more money.  Safety wasn't a consideration for me.  I'd been working 13 years without a fall or accident.  Perhaps one was round the corner though, who knows.

Same here, and also because it's less tiring.

Also I was off for 5 weeks with repetitive strain in my shoulder from scrubbing and squeegeeing.
That's when I knew I had to change things.

[windowwashers]

If i wanted to massage ego`s on here i would say that it`s because it`s safer and it does a lovely job on the frames lol,if i was telling you the truth i would say it`s because i earn loads more money and i don`t get tired to much anymore.99.9% of people go WFP for the money the other .1% is lying.

lol at the 1%

I was near on forced to change direction quicker than I wanted to so I changed for Safety first I did not go diy as again Safety was my issue I have a family to support and a car crash made me think very hard and fast, was a good move for sure.

Thats being totally honest I was looking into it and hearing horror stories before I crashed, I have to also thank a guy for speaking to me about it then going to my customer after I cleaned there windows and took the job off me (nice guy stabbed me in the back) as I did not have wfp so could not do the 2nd floor windows, I thank him and will remember it always.

Ian

[tomy jackson]

safty furst & formost SAFTY , it wosent  till i sarted wfp that i fond it wos qicker

[Wayne Thomas]

I bought WFP mainly because of my health.

[windowwashers]

If i wanted to massage ego`s on here i would say that it`s because it`s safer and it does a lovely job on the frames lol,if i was telling you the truth i would say it`s because i earn loads more money and i don`t get tired to much anymore.99.9% of people go WFP for the money the other .1% is lying.

lol at the 1%

I was near on forced to change direction quicker than I wanted to so I changed for Safety first I did not go diy as again Safety was my issue I have a family to support and a car crash made me think very hard and fast, was a good move for sure.

Thats being totally honest I was looking into it and hearing horror stories before I crashed, I have to also thank a guy for speaking to me about it then going to my customer after I cleaned there windows and took the job off me (nice guy stabbed me in the back) as I did not have wfp so could not do the 2nd floor windows, I thank him and will remember it always.

Ian

Good reason Ian, increase margins by delivering a better service.
The guy who took the job of you!

That was not the reason but it did help I hate being turned over by people I have OCD on this

[LWC]

i fell off a ladder twice, first time hurt, second time shook me up so the next day i went wfp.

i tell all my customers this, i dont lie and say you cant use ladders and they respect that

if i have to use a ladder i do, but only when or if i need to otherwise its wfp

for me wfp does a great job, and most of all its fast and safe...and yes i earn more money from it...but it also costs me a heck of a lot!

[Helen]

[quote
i tell all my customers this, i dont lie and say you cant use ladders and they respect that.
if i have to use a ladder i do, but only when or if i need to otherwise its wfp

Exactly, part of the explanation we give customers " window cleaners can use ladders, but only as a last resort when all other options have been investigated and exhausted" They accept this and come on the books...They don't accept this and it can be done WFP they don't come on the books..easy

Purpose we changed over....to work more safely than before, let's be honest the outlay on WFP is worth it to reduce as much as possible the risk of a fatal or near fatal fall. We have staff and I certainly don't want to be the one who has to break bad news to nearest and dearest. Once we were up and running with WFP we found it is quicker on SOME work not all, so yes we have made more money on SOME work, but defo not the reason to convert

[pjulk]

Health reason for me mainly already had an operation on my back and will always have problems with it.

If i stayed on ladders i doubt i would be able to continue many more years.

Wfp has made it so much easier on my back for me.

[sjm]

To be honest , I am thinking of wfp because of all the hype !   I earn a really good whack from trad , and I love it  I dont want to sound negative here , but everyone I know who has had wfp as a customer didnt like it ! ( frieinds and family )  I want to modernise and keep up with the times , and all that , but the positive comments on here just dont match up with the real life people I have talked to  I mostly do semis , so maybe wfp is better on bigger properties ?  Just to add , all my work I dont have to extend my ladder more than a couple of rungs 

[Joe Lauzon]

Honestly sjm, I wouldn't listen to the hype on here.  People just talk about the positive of wfp in the main.  If you enjoy trad, are fit, and are making good money, stick at it.  Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before.  I did used to run all day with ladders, but it kept me awake and buzzing     I found the job kept me healthier back then also.  Just don't fall off 

[TennetClean]

Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before

Seriously?  Don't you find its any faster at all?

[Joe Lauzon]

Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before

Seriously?  Don't you find its any faster at all?

Yes, faster on some jobs.  But the costs are more, so net profit pretty equal.

Not boasting, but I was pretty damn quick trad.

[LWC]

Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before

Seriously?  Don't you find its any faster at all?

dont often agree with you tennet but ill have to say i agree there, in 2 years with wfp my buisness booming! after 3 years of trad before slowly turning over the customers, now im gaining at least 3 a day yet still getting through them (although i am struggling now with 2 of us going out, hence 2 vans on the road plans )

[sjm]

Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before

Seriously?  Don't you find its any faster at all?

dont often agree with you tennet but ill have to say i agree there, in 2 years with wfp my buisness booming! after 3 years of trad before slowly turning over the customers, now im gaining at least 3 a day yet still getting through them (although i am struggling now with 2 of us going out, hence 2 vans on the road plans )

Lwc , dont you think that if you were trad you would be getting the same enquiries ?  All I am saying is that you are doing well because you are a positive person ! 

[Joe Lauzon]

Bare in mind I do a fair few shops, petrol stations, pubs.  Not getting any gain from wfp there at all.  Getting a gain on the domestic work, extra 2 houses a day on average I reckon.  As I say, profit pretty even.

I started trad at 17 finished at 30, doing wfp for the last 2 years.  So I was very experienced and still young enough to be quick all day.

I find, if given the choice, domestic customers in the main perfer trad.  I'm bursting with work, so they get what their given  

[Joe Lauzon]

Starting wfp is a huge hassal.  I'm not making any more money 2 years into wfp than I was before

Seriously?  Don't you find its any faster at all?

dont often agree with you tennet but ill have to say i agree there, in 2 years with wfp my buisness booming! after 3 years of trad before slowly turning over the customers, now im gaining at least 3 a day yet still getting through them (although i am struggling now with 2 of us going out, hence 2 vans on the road plans )

Lwc , dont you think that if you were trad you would be getting the same enquiries ?  All I am saying is that you are doing well because you are a positive person ! 

I believe when you go wfp you tend to take your trade more seriously - perhaps due to the investment?  From my experience domestic customers prefer trad over wfp if given the choice.