[Wrekin C S]

I have a few big houses that have been converted into flats to quote for they will be two monthly how do I price these one of them has 65 windows in total some big some small - new to commercial stuff so all help much appriceated, thanks.

[LWC]

think of a price, double it, and add a bit

[LWC]

lol, i go on about a £1 a window, flats are simple, i have a block where i do them all and some have patio doors and i just count them as a £1

£65 plus a bit if they are big, £80 odd...in my opinion. but would really need to see it

[Wrekin C S]

So 65 window at £65 x 2 £130 plus its outta town £20 fuel costs = £150?

[LWC]

depends how long its gonna take, the flats i do is a peice of cake and take about 20 mins, and i earn a good amount in that time!

if they take a hour, £130 is good regardless of fuel hey 

[Wrekin C S]

To be honest its a huge place with big conserv around back I reckon 2-3 hours - and for the others to price up £1 a window double it and then bit for fuel?

[ronnie paton]

jus cause its commercial dont double it, unless you know its yours .

if there is 65 normal size windows which i think i could do in so 1 hour and a half tops then £65 is a good price, trying to get more cause its commercial doesent always work has its very competitive.

[Wrekin C S]

jus cause its commercial dont double it, unless you know its yours .

if there is 65 normal size windows which i think i could do in so 1 hour and a half tops then £65 is a good price, trying to get more cause its commercial doesent always work has its very competitive.

I don't want to be cutting my own throat with it really and I know im the only one quoting for them at the mo - I thought with commercial work most of you guys charge double per window then add a bit I could be wrong though - will see whats said later on tonight when everyone come online - cause gotta get this sorted and dont want to get it wrong...

[AJ]

getting a decent paying job is better than not getting a fantastic paying job.
i wouldn't double it but you can charge a bit more cos you got to wait a month for your payment.

[Kev R]

If its commercial you can clean it in the pouring rain! thats a benefit over domestic to start with. Commercial is very competitive, much more so than domestic. We work on hourly rate its that simple. 

[pjulk]

I thought with commercial work most of you guys charge double per window then add a bit I could be wrong though

I wish it was like that but unfortunately its not.

[Wrekin C S]

If its commercial you can clean it in the pouring rain! thats a benefit over domestic to start with. Commercial is very competitive, much more so than domestic. We work on hourly rate its that simple. 

What hourly rate would be ok though £20 - £30ph?

[Kev R]

If its commercial you can clean it in the pouring rain! thats a benefit over domestic to start with. Commercial is very competitive, much more so than domestic. We work on hourly rate its that simple. 

What hourly rate would be ok though £20 - £30ph?

A bit more it is commercial after all.

[ronnie paton]

i would say £30 pound is a good figuer you could try for more but i like to get my self an image for being competitive whilst providing a quality service.
its competitve so you have to compete!!

[Kev R]

Lets face it it depends on the building and the client- if its easy and anyone could do it £30 per hour is a Ok rate but if its difficult in some way that excludes the average window cleaner a premium is added. Also some clients like a good sales pitch and like a "premium" service, some just want the windows cleaned for the cheapest price possible. Experience helps, it doesn't take too long to get the feel for it, however we all get caught out from time to time.

[windowwashers]

Lets face it it depends on the building and the client- if its easy and anyone could do it £30 per hour is a Ok rate but if its difficult in some way that excludes the average window cleaner a premium is added. Also some clients like a good sales pitch and like a "premium" service, some just want the windows cleaned for the cheapest price possible. Experience helps, it doesn't take too long to get the feel for it, however we all get caught out from time to time.

thats so true, even though it hurts to say it.

Ian

[Wrekin C S]

I think im gonna go with £1 per window then double it then add bit for fuel and some of the windows are big ones - its hard to price sometimes because you have to count some windows a 2 windows if they are big.

[Ian_Giles]

Never think about an hourly rate!
Price up per window and you get a much better uniformity of price.

When you price by the hour, the faster you get, the more work you get done and you don't benefit from the fact you have speeded up.

There is a whole lot more I can say about pricing, but it'll take too long.

But there is a difference between the hourly rate you eventually earn, and you can only truly work that out when you do your accounts at the end of the year and remove all of your business running costs and so on.
The amount you earn per minute worked is a very different animal to what you perceive as your hourly rate...

Break the work down into single units of standard window size and charge a set amount per window, £1.00 per window, £2.00 per window, whatever floats your boat, allow a little more as you go up higher though.
Once you have done that you may have to add a little due to access and parking and so on, or perhaps traveling.

Ian

[Wrekin C S]

Never think about an hourly rate!
Price up per window and you get a much better uniformity of price.

When you price by the hour, the faster you get, the more work you get done and you don't benefit from the fact you have speeded up.

There is a whole lot more I can say about pricing, but it'll take too long.

But there is a difference between the hourly rate you eventually earn, and you can only truly work that out when you do your accounts at the end of the year and remove all of your business running costs and so on.
The amount you earn per minute worked is a very different animal to what you perceive as your hourly rate...

Break the work down into single units of standard window size and charge a set amount per window, £1.00 per window, £2.00 per window, whatever floats your boat, allow a little more as you go up higher though.
Once you have done that you may have to add a little due to access and parking and so on, or perhaps traveling.

Ian

Sounds about right to me say £2 per window then cant go wrong bit for fuel jobs a gooden
cheers

[Kev R]

Never think about an hourly rate!
Price up per window and you get a much better uniformity of price.

When you price by the hour, the faster you get, the more work you get done and you don't benefit from the fact you have speeded up.

There is a whole lot more I can say about pricing, but it'll take too long.

But there is a difference between the hourly rate you eventually earn, and you can only truly work that out when you do your accounts at the end of the year and remove all of your business running costs and so on.
The amount you earn per minute worked is a very different animal to what you perceive as your hourly rate...

Break the work down into single units of standard window size and charge a set amount per window, £1.00 per window, £2.00 per window, whatever floats your boat, allow a little more as you go up higher though.
Once you have done that you may have to add a little due to access and parking and so on, or perhaps traveling.

Ian

Depends on the hourly rate and divisions there of - The trouble with a set price per window is when you get very large jobs as you price yourself out of the game. period