[jonah]

Will be going over to wfp in august, the dilema I have now is I am getting a lot of enqiries for new work !  I could really do with the new work , but wondered if it would be ok to do them trad , then convert over ?       Would it be wise to explain this to new customers ?   Any comments appreciated     thanks .

[Spursboy1972]

If you need the work then take it now! You can explain to new customers that you will be making the change. Better to lose them now before you get used to the extra revenue rather than just change and them not be happy. Be up front about it.

[pingu]

I would just take the work on and then convert it, no reason to wait...

Just get in there and get stuck in.

Dave....

[Paul Coleman]

Will be going over to wfp in august, the dilema I have now is I am getting a lot of enqiries for new work !  I could really do with the new work , but wondered if it would be ok to do them trad , then convert over ?       Would it be wise to explain this to new customers ?   Any comments appreciated     thanks .

It gives you an opportunity to start priming the customers ready for your switchover.  It also gives an opportunity to start preparing the windows by using a detergent that won't cause too much spotting on first WFP cleans and by giving the top frames a thorough clean by hand.

[steve.ternent]

  Take on the work, if people/customers like you they will stick with you! 

You will lose a couple anyway when you change, some people just don't like change 

Build up all the time regardless, people move, people die, and sometimes they can no longer afford you!
What can I say "life sucks"
Remember Be Happy...it's only a job!     

[simon knight]

Take the work, get the dough on your hip and worry about introducing them to wfp nearer the time.

[JSMC]

Will be going over to wfp in august, the dilema I have now is I am getting a lot of enqiries for new work !  I could really do with the new work , but wondered if it would be ok to do them trad , then convert over ?       Would it be wise to explain this to new customers ?   Any comments appreciated     thanks .

It gives you an opportunity to start priming the customers ready for your switchover.  It also gives an opportunity to start preparing the windows by using a detergent that won't cause too much spotting on first WFP cleans and by giving the top frames a thorough clean by hand.

what type of detergent is suited for this?

[NWH]

Will be going over to wfp in august, the dilema I have now is I am getting a lot of enqiries for new work !  I could really do with the new work , but wondered if it would be ok to do them trad , then convert over ?       Would it be wise to explain this to new customers ?   Any comments appreciated     thanks .

It gives you an opportunity to start priming the customers ready for your switchover.  It also gives an opportunity to start preparing the windows by using a detergent that won't cause too much spotting on first WFP cleans and by giving the top frames a thorough clean by hand.

what type of detergent is suited for this?

Any it`s a load of rubbish mate,if window`s are gonna give you problems they will anyway trust me.Just makesure you go round before and give the frames a good going over as it will help you on initial cleans,but as for detergent take your pick it makes hardly any difference.

[windowwashers]

Will be going over to wfp in august, the dilema I have now is I am getting a lot of enqiries for new work !  I could really do with the new work , but wondered if it would be ok to do them trad , then convert over ?       Would it be wise to explain this to new customers ?   Any comments appreciated     thanks .

It gives you an opportunity to start priming the customers ready for your switchover.  It also gives an opportunity to start preparing the windows by using a detergent that won't cause too much spotting on first WFP cleans and by giving the top frames a thorough clean by hand.

what type of detergent is suited for this?

Fairy causes problems that is what I found, I used gg4 before on quite a few houses and the difference on the first clean spoke for itself, fairy is greasey and takes alot more work to get out from its hiding places normally top seal, gg4 is not and worked a treat less slip than fairy if trad but you get used to it quick, there are a few others like squeege off but have not used them so cannot comment on them.


Ian.

[NWH]

It`s not the detergent that will determine the job after a few cleans it`s the window type itself,we say give it a few cleans before they come good that`s to remove soap residue etc.The best way to remove this residue is with a mono brush as it gets right into the rubber seals and shifts it quicker,after a few cleans if there still giving problems it`s more than likely down to the window itself or frames.

[groundhog]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about, just take on the work and get on with it, 95% of your customers will not give a monkeys how you clean their windows, unless you start making a big deal about it!!!!!  

[windowwashers]

It`s not the detergent that will determine the job after a few cleans it`s the window type itself,we say give it a few cleans before they come good that`s to remove soap residue etc.The best way to remove this residue is with a mono brush as it gets right into the rubber seals and shifts it quicker,after a few cleans if there still giving problems it`s more than likely down to the window itself or frames.

I was talking about the saop in frames sills  ;not the windows if they are suitable.

[Paul Coleman]

Take the work, get the dough on your hip and worry about introducing them to wfp nearer the time.

I know that Fairy can cause spotting on the first clean.  I was told (but don't know if it's right) that detergents with a higher silicon content are more prone to cause spotting in such a situation.  Detergents with a lower silicon content include (if I was correctly informed), Unger Liquid, GG3, GG4.  The snag being that detergents with less silicon are less slippery with the squeegee.  I question how important this all is though because it's only an issue for the first WFP clean anyway.

[groundhog]

I never seem to get problems with spotting on the first clean, but I really give them a good going over the first time I clean them!! If you just clean them the same as windows you have cleaned many times before then you are bound to get some spots!!! 

[NWH]

Use plenty of water and flush the bugger out that`s what i say,little water you might get problems use more than enough and you increase the chance of doing a good job.

[Paul Coleman]

I never seem to get problems with spotting on the first clean, but I really give them a good going over the first time I clean them!! If you just clean them the same as windows you have cleaned many times before then you are bound to get some spots!!! 

Yes indeed.  I should have added that the spot problem improved a lot when I decided to go around first cleans twice.

[jonah]

excellent comments guys 

[paulscotney]

IMO all decent customers want is reliability they are not bothered whether you do an immaculate job or a decent job all they want is reliability. They would rather have a reliable decent window cleaner than a perfectionist who comes when he feels like. I don't honestly think they could care less how you do it, although obviously they prefer the frames and sills washed down but if they have only known trad they will be impressed with wfp.