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des

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2008, 09:19:59 pm »
 Ken can you explain the method of cleaning with white  scotch pad ie  hoover -prespray ect and where do you get them from   des ???
des at mister clean

Len Gribble

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2008, 09:24:17 pm »
Ken

So what you are saying the machine is mechanical and is intelligent and it knows? must have a lot of sensors? read what is quoted. ;)

It wasn’t you but do like smoke screens. ;D

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2008, 10:15:07 pm »
Des you can buy white scotch pads form most Janitorial supplies, the method is litterally spray down chosen solution and buff, simple as that.

Shaun

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2008, 08:48:31 am »
Des

Thanks Shaun

Len

The butterfly valve is similar to that found in some carbs and fuel injection systems. When it's closed it's closed (the default position)

Turn on the 3rd vac and the airflow will naturally pull it open.

As stated, previously there was a dump valve which you physically had to open to allow the air from the 3rd vac to be sucked from the tank. Hence it is now automatic. No sensors. No relays. No motors.

Must admit that as with most things in life, manufacturers can come up with some fancy names for something that is quite simple :-X

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Joe H

Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2008, 05:58:03 pm »
For the scorpion guys (The Scorpion-3 incorporates our innovative “Intelligent Airflow Management System” that automatically helps regulate and increase air-flow within system on operator demand!)

Brilliant piece of wording. As Ken explained, it is a simple proceedure but the wording "sells" it well.
And it happens to work as well.
Wish I was as half as good at putting words together.

Len Gribble

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2008, 06:53:24 pm »
Ken

Now I get  ;D it the intelligent bit  8) is the cc turning on the switch,  ;) which puts into automatic mode. ???

Joe

You’ve now got it on demand no fluffing about or mind/word games, ;) but keep it as a back up job that are hard to reach.

Des

Think about warranty of customer’s carpets/tiles :-X

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Paul Davidson

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2008, 11:23:32 pm »
Thanks again for the input.  It would appear that you dont get lots of power with little weight!

In the meantime, i think i have narrowed things down to a few machines including the following which i would appreciate your opinion on!

The Prochem powermax steanpro 2000- - - - 120psi pump with 2 x 3stage by pass vacuums

The Rhino twin vac  135 pump

The Clean pro (from cleansmart)

Or if i was to push the boat out a little further..... The powerflight  Perfect Heat, it looks like a very efficient powerfull machine especially with the cfr wonderwand.

Any opinions on the above would be appreciated

cheers

Paul

Joe H

Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2008, 06:29:30 am »
Your quote - Any opinions on the above would be appreciated

They will all clean carpets, no problem.

Your quote - It would appear that you dont get lots of power with little weight!

Dont understand how you get to that.
The Scorpion, and I have one so can speak freely, has 3-3 stage vacuum motors and a 500psi pump, and uses 2" hoses. Thats as much power you going to get from 2 mains cables. Add a external heater (3rd main cable)and you have a brilliant machine.

MICHAEL_GAYTON

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2008, 07:41:50 am »
the new 500cfr out next month is small and light.no stopping to refill
ULTRA 4 CLUB
four systems one operator

Paul Davidson

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2008, 08:03:09 am »
Your quote - Any opinions on the above would be appreciated

They will all clean carpets, no problem.

Your quote - It would appear that you dont get lots of power with little weight!

Dont understand how you get to that.
The Scorpion, and I have one so can speak freely, has 3-3 stage vacuum motors and a 500psi pump, and uses 2" hoses. Thats as much power you going to get from 2 mains cables. Add a external heater (3rd main cable)and you have a brilliant machine.

Joe, i agree the Scorpion would fit into the lightweight but very powerfull catagory.  The reason i have most likely discounted this machine is its cost, at about £2500 plus hoses, wand and vat.  Although itcertainly looks a fantastic machine.

I have seriously considered a second hand Van and TM, but will build the business up over the next 6 to 12 months or so, and if there is anywhere approaching enough business i will make that investment.  So in the meantime i am looking for an efficient cost effective machine to get me to that point.

Cheers

paul

MICHAEL_GAYTON

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Re: Lightweight Portables?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2008, 08:20:43 am »
i still think the best  deal is the cfr400 with heater/ wonderwand i have the 400 and 500 ,but like the 400 more
ULTRA 4 CLUB
four systems one operator