[TennetClean]

Tuppence Clean.. oops.. sorry his friends call him that

You can be my friend too 

[michael papworth]

I wouldn't get  embroiled in any debate about van-mounted system versus trolley or home-made versus proprietary system. These debates are fruitless no matter how entertaining.

Nowhere did I say anything about a trolley <<as the main thing to use for working>>. I don't really know where that came from.

Nor was I giving advice. I was merely making an observation about Mark's comment that a grand was a lot of money for what you get.

My observation was in two main parts:

1 - about the cost of the freedom trolley being quite reasonable considering that a small additional amount buys you the complete wherewithal to start a successful business.

2 -  a window cleaner's main capital is his/her own self.

Where's the problem with that? It was completely on-topic and hardly a contentious view.

And flexibility is the key to success in ANYTHING. Taking such a polarised stance about this or that system being better that that system in every conceivable instance is only going to cause either ill-will or amusement depending on the thickness of the individual's skin.

[Dynamic Express]

I love mine - but its time to move on, so mine is for sale.

If anyones interested.

How much do you want for your trolley?

[pingu]

Personally I have a van mount, trolley and a backpack...there are all used during my 8 weekly schedule....just a different tool to do the same job...

The Freedom trolley is a great piece of kit...the only addition that I have made is to mount a 20meter hose reel to it.....other than that in the event my van mount has some problem I have spares or a replacement system...

When I first started way, way back in the day ....Aug 06    Andrew McCann gave me loads of help and advice which could have been dispensed via email but he phoned me here in Holland for about 45 minutes and lesser times during a month period...The help and information he gave was invaluble...

Today I am still using the RO system I got from him (ok I have upgraded to 300GPD) but that is as a result of my business expanding and needing me to produce and store more water.

I still use the 22ft glass fibre pole but very rarely as I now use a c/f pole....cannot expect c/f and a whole system for a grand can you...

All in all the Freedom Trolley is a great piece of kit and when my brother in law wanted to give it all a try ...I just gave him the trolley...a few containers of water and a pole and off he went....he was set up in as much time as it takes to put it all in his van...

Are there other options ...YES....

Would I recommend them...YES...Andrew is a pleasure to do business with and at the start when I needed alot of advice, information, handholding...Andrew did that and more...

Dave.   

[Dean Taberner]

A good post is that Dave

[michael papworth]

A good post is that Dave

I'd like to second that.

It's not only the quality of the kit that you buy which is important. The after-sales service and advice that you get from the suppliers are also very important.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but included in the kit is a file containing ALL the documentation you need about everything. And that is very important.

[Spursboy1972]

To summarise from all of you and something I argued with Groundhog a lot over is this. Everything is just another tool for your profession. I have a van mount and a back pack and am in the process of refurbing an old pure freedom trolley. I use all of them and my ladders occasionally. Squeegees scrims, microfibres. Everybody like different things but   they are all tools of our chosen profession. It really is that simple and in order to offer a complete service I believe you need to have all tools.

[Scrimble]

i am contemplating on purchasing a purefreedom trolley because at the moment i am 100 percent traditional and i was thinking about a trolley to do awkward windows, leaded glass or where ladders are not suitable, and conservatory roofs where an outdoor tap is not avaliable, i didnt really want a van mount as i drive a 03 lpg astra van and dont want hundreds of litres of water in the back, nor do i want to change to a bigger van,

[michael papworth]

Mark's posting is precisely the point I made earlier. You have to start from where you are.

Mark has no need or desire for a van mounted system - so the freedom trolley is perfect for his particular needs.

It may not be perfect for everyone's, but there is room in life for variety.

The original question was, "What are your thoughts on them?"

The general consensus from those who use or have used them seems to be that they are very effective, well-engineered for what they designed to do and made up from first-class components.