[Neil Mc Anulty]

Hi All
Got my first run with the Dry fusion machine. I ran out of activator during the job (I have the portable also). Took a brainwave and mist sprayed with soloution no 2 and used the dry fusion rotary system on the last corridor. The results were perfect.

I know I may have taken a risk, but is this method viable?
Customer was happy as they booked me for more work.
nr_neil

[paul@ctcs]

Neil,

You could have saved a fourtune and used microsplitters with charlie pads

Paul

[stevegunn]

Paul are you on commission from Nick

[paul@ctcs]

I wish

[Fintan_Coll]

nr neil, did you get any satisfaction from the Activator supplier since or are they still short of the product.

[Neil Mc Anulty]

Fintan
It wasnt that they were short of the product, they told me straight out they were not supplying me. I am going to order up some of the craftex equivalent instead. Problem solved.

[Ken Wainwright]

Nr Neil

By using the micro-splitter, you are just bonnet cleaning. No problem with that as good results can be achieved by a skilled technician.

Problems in use could arise though. All the Dry Fusion components are balanced to work safely, quickly and effectively together. Because of the unique properties of tha Dry Fusion chemicals, they permit the safer use of higher RPM with the machine. By changing to a more conventional detergent or  detergent free micro-splitting solution, the lubricating properties of Activator are lost so there is a higher risk of fibre/yarn damage to the carpet being cleaned. I can't remember the actual speed of my "Fire Engine" but, as far as I'm aware, there aren't any other comparable machines on the market. If you must use other solutions with your D/F machine, turn the heat off to minimise the risk of heat damage and keep your concentration high, proceeding with caution.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[beau4021]

re charlie pads
did i see somewher you get them from columbus
are they any good with dry fusion m/c please
regs.bryan

[stevegunn]

You get them from Solution you need a different drive plate to use them with df machine which Solution also sell.

[nick.solution]

Hi Guys

Their is no issue at all using a micro splitters to bonnet clean as it is a neutral on drying, I would for obvious reasons suggest it work even better when used with Super Pad Charly. Due to there internal suction core.

Best Regards Nick

[Nobby]

Hi Neil,

I would agree with all that Ken said above about using detergents other than Activator with a DF machine as it runs at 290 rpm and not 180rpm which is normally associated with rotary systems....BUT. I have used the Craftex equivilent you mention for 2 years and I find it just the same and has caused absolutely no problems.  It is formulated for use with a heated rotary machine and as such has all the lubricating properties required.  I would personally prefer a 180 rpm machine I think it would clean better, in fact Columbus (the makers of DF machines) do or did make the 'Thermomachine' as it's known in a slow speed, I often wonder why that was not the machine used by DF.

Regards
Nobby

[Ken Wainwright]

Dry Fusion cleaning solutions are unique. There are natural, orgainc components that are exclusive to Dry Fusion, and produced by the parent company in Australia. If you are using your "Fire Engine" for anything but The Dry Fusion System, keep an eye on the underside of the machine. If there is the slightest hint of rust, there will also be damage being caused which you cannot see. If in use you have steam being produced by non D/F products, you will also be causing problems for the future with your machine. Other chemicals are not the same

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Nobby]

Dear Ken,

Activator is without doubt a great product which has revolutionised cleaning with bonnets.  I have the data sheet in front of me, I'm no chemist but I can't see the natural organic ingredients that are unique to Activator, which are they?

Regards

Nobby

[Len Gribble]

Though I’ve no experience the DF cleaning agents but I will make an assumption is it used neat? (Yes I can be a prat at times) but on the other hand if one needs to dilute with water would not this also cause rusting.

Organic components don’t they = some type of salts another great rusting property.

Len

[Nobby]

Len,

Yes Activator is diluted 1:4 with water and thinking about it I think the machine is made of aluminium (at least the part in contact with moisture) ie non rusting.

Regards

Nobby

[Len Gribble]

Nobby

Thanks, but I don’t know this machine had a look at one of my buffers the female/base plate and the male connector on machine are an alloy bit of plastic cover between it and metal workings, rest of machine mainly metal apart from motor cover plastic, I assume this is the standard format of this type of machine of what ever speed

I only used the word rusting in general terms, as don’t know the correct word for pitting in an alloy.

Len

[Nobby]

Yes you do Len, it is called pitting!

Nobby

[Len Gribble]

Nobby

Thanks again!

Just tying to get to the bottom of what Ken posted rusting on the DF machine, have to say, that would be applicable to any machine that one uses, regardless of what cleaning agents one uses even h2o on its own!

Len

[Neil Mc Anulty]

   Referring to the different speeds and the lubricating agents in Activator, are Super Charly Pads and m/s safe to use with the Dry Fusion machine?

[stevegunn]

You need a rubber plate from Solution to use with your dry fusion machine but you cannot use the heat.