[cheryl new]

My first job of the new year is a true initiation into carpet and upholstery cleaning.

Beige nylon carpet with urine stains around commode area.

Red acrylic lounge suite, old, worn and full of urine and food spills.

I've been using microsplitters in general but feel that I'm going to need something a little extra for the urine odour problem areas.

Suggestions greatly accepted as I need to order and receive before Wed 5th Jan.

Cheers guys.

Cheryl

[Dynafoam]

Cheryl,

Prochem B153 Urine Neutralised works very well, but any yellow staining may be permanent.

when applying any urine treatment it is important that the treatment penetrates as deep as the urine, so misting some on the surface will not suffice.

Where urine has penetrated to the substrate it has likely spread sideways to cover an areas at least twice the size of any visible surface marking, so the treatment area must be extended to include this.

In some cases, especially when repeated contamination has occurred, it may be necessary to uplift the carpet, renew part of the underlay, and treat sub-floor and carpet backing prior to re-laying the carpet.

The upholstery can present more of a problem since the urine may have penetrated deep into the padding. in these cases you may need to take away the affected pads for extensive treatment.

Treat all body fluid spills as bio-hazards - protect yourself during the process and sterilised all equipment after use.

[cheryl new]

Many thanks John,

I've ordered B153 which will randomly spot treat around specified area, then prespray and agitate.

Would AirX be of any benefit on Urine?  I had thought of injecting it into the foam pads to help neutralise these areas.

Alternatively I'll advise the client that there is a gel based odour neutraliser which I can supply them with.

Thanks again.

Best wishes
Cheryl

[Dynafoam]

Cheryl,

AirX does work on urine, but I have had limited results to date - it is far more effective against proteins.

Unfortunately it has to be one or the other as the B153 would kill the AirX microbes.

Your gel neutraliser can be used as a post-treatment if required.

[Martin_Riley]

John. I have a job from a local secure unit whereby one of the patients has badly soiled 4 settees and 8 armchairs with urine. They have waited a while to get me to look at them because they didn't want them cleaned then the patient does it again. They are very heavily soiled with urine that I suspect has penetrated deep into the cushions and carcasses. The smell is awful. The cushions are down filled and the carcasses are normal foam filled. They had loose covers so I am only cleaning the white cushion/carcass units. I don't think I can do much for the stains (which won't be visible) but I would like to know how to eradicate the smell so they can reuse them. Apparently they were expensive so they don't want to replace if possible. Any advice would be great. Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and everyone else on the board.
Martin

[cheryl new]

Many thanks John, once again your're willing to stick your neck out to answer a somewhat simple question to those of us who need guidance.

Possibly if I use the 153 on the fabric and the airx on the foam I can double the chances of neutralisation but suggest to the client that we re-treat with either the airx or gel on the foam at a later date and report on the results. 

I'll let you know how I get on.

Martin, sorry I interupted your post.  There are quite a few previous posts on urine contamination but most seemed to end without conclusion; so if anyone else has suggestions that could be added to this topic at this time with conclusive results, please feel free to add your comments.

Best regards
Cheryl

[John_Flynn]

To be safe have the nessesary Jabs before taking on this type of work!!

Who will pay your wages IF ??

[Dynafoam]

Martin,

I direct you to the three pages that outline the level of treatment that will likely be required in this situation.

 http://www.another forum.co.uk/?board=carp_clng;action=display;num=1088375127

Some of the products mentioned will be hard to source, so alternatives will be required.
Whilst reading, consider that you will likely have to remove the furniture from site, unless they can provide a suitable venue. A warm location would speed the process.

As an alternative approach the articles could be saturated in urine neutraliser , then encapsulated in plastic sheeting  for 24 hours, then extracted/rinsed/extracted/rinsed until properly flushed.

Although shutting the items in a sealed room with a powerful ozone generator would remove the odour, since the uric salts will be present deep within the foam, the effect of this method is likely to be temporary.

Other considerations is to decide how well the face fabric of the carcase will stand up to prolonged soaking and whether any urethane on the padding has been seriously affected.

This is the sort of job that can drag out in both time and cost.

[Martin_Riley]

Thanks John, I will contact them to see whether they want the expense of what seems to be a problematic job.
Martin