[Ian Lancaster]

I've got a 30ft (7 section) Xtel pole - not too heavy but very bendy.  Thinking of getting the 36ft hybrid Xtel.

How do they compare?  I need a pole that stays where I want it to (within reason) and doesn't weigh any more than the Xtel glass pole.

We do quite a few houses with dormer windows, and it's a pain trying to stop the brush slipping off the side of the dormer in any sort of breeze.

Cheers,

Ian

[Jeff Brimble]

You need c/f for stiffness where you need you need it.

[Ian Lancaster]

Cheers Jeff,

I realise that the only way to guarantee stiffness ( ) is to buy carbon fibre, I just wanted to know if the Hybrid is noticeably more rigid than the glassfibre?

[*foxman]

There is a big difference between the 30ft glass and 30ft hybrid - Hybrid is lighter, stiffer and a lot less whippy. Glass is good up to 22-24ft, hybrid 27ft+

[stuart@skypole]

Ian,

Why not have a look at our skypole 30 ft,

Its a mixture of aluminium and carbon fibre wrap more rigid than normal carbon or glass fibre poles it also only weighs 1.77kgs.

the picture on the right hand side of the main page on our website shows our 30ft extended, you can see the rigidity in it,

www.skypolewfp.com

Just a thought

kind regards, Stuart

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I have the hybrid and gf at different heights but yes the hybrid is much much more rigid and still very light.

Simon.

[Alex Gardiner]

The Hybrid pole (34ft 6 inches) is 150g heavier than the glass fibre (31ft 4 inches) Xtel pole. It does feel psychologically slightly heavier as it 4mm fatter as well.

Rigidity wise though it is very much better than the glass fibre pole.

The chart below attempts to explain the rigidity difference in the two poles:

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Ian,

Why not have a look at our skypole 30 ft,



kind regards, Stuart

can you tell us more about your pole please Stuart? Closed length, warrenty, price at 30' inc delivery, hose and brush. Would you think it's on a par with Alex's new pole?
This is a genuine question, i really fancy the SL-X but delivery dates are dragging on and my everyday pole is flagging.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Skypole

Just looking at the specs on your poles

http://www.skypolewfp.com/skypole-data-4-w.asp

and wondering why the 35ft pole is 1.5kg heavier than the 30ft pole.  Where as the 40ft pole is only 230 grammes heavier than the 35.  It seems like a massive increase in weight for only 5 ft more, unless of course there is some sort of structural difference past a certain height.

Simon.

[NWH]

Ian,

Why not have a look at our skypole 30 ft,



kind regards, Stuart

can you tell us more about your pole please Stuart? Closed length, warrenty, price at 30' inc delivery, hose and brush. Would you think it's on a par with Alex's new pole?
This is a genuine question, i really fancy the SL-X but delivery dates are dragging on and my everyday pole is flagging.

Is it on par,in short no.

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Looking around for an SL-X alternative and there wouldn't seem to be much out there - Facelift carbon fibre - too expensive. Skypole - more expensive than the SL-X and possibly a bit long (but looks good and might be strong and rigid). I would think if it's that good it will take a lot of sales away from the competition particularly at 30'. Don't know much about xtel but carbon would be a longer pole than i want.

[NWH]

Poles are like shoes,you get what you pay for.There`s absolutley no point in buying cheap poles as they won`t last 5 mins and they will put strain on your body if using them for long periods of time,the best cheap pole going at the moment is the 17ft XTEL pole for average height domestic work you can`t go wrong,the new ones have also been improved upon i believe.If you use WFP allday long in glass fiber i wouldn`t go any higher than the 17ft XTEL,any higher than 17ft i would go carbon.

[Darren O]

If you belive most people on here that they are earning £150+ a day i dont no why they dont just buy a carbon facelift one of  the best poles out.Whats it gonna cost 3or4 days wages for a pole that will last you years.24ft the pole is brilliant even 30-34ft still good used it at 44ft thought that was to heavy but still got the job done.I use this pole everyday at 24ft wouldnt use anything else.

[stuart@skypole]

Simon,

our skypole 30 ft weighs 2.43kgs, the 1.77kgs is a type error on the website which should have been changed on wednesday.

NWH, sorry to be blunt but i dont remember supplying you with a pole  .
so your coment "is it on par, in short no" is strange to say the least.

The 30ft skypole is well built rigid and light. the pole sections come completely apart has a base section diameter of 31mm which is the equivilent of (for eg: the 21ft glass fibre X-tel pole which is 30mm).

for more indepth spec please feel free to browse our website.

regards, stuart
www.skypolewfp.com

[Wayne Thomas]

If you belive most people on here that they are earning £150+ a day i dont no why they dont just buy a carbon facelift one of  the best poles out.Whats it gonna cost 3or4 days wages for a pole that will last you years.24ft the pole is brilliant even 30-34ft still good used it at 44ft thought that was to heavy but still got the job done.I use this pole everyday at 24ft wouldnt use anything else.

You have to read between the lines, to realise who brags and who just knuckles down and gets on with their job and doesn't bat an eyelid on what they pay for equipment because they don't have the time to fluff around with 'DIY' substitutes to save a few pennies when they lose a fortune not working. Common sense really.

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You have to remember too that the majority are probably on here to pick up tips etc and so are reletively new to the game. Many like myself are still building their business up so to just pop out and buy a Carbon Facelift pole at whatever the price is a big decision. I can often hit the figures quoted on here but that's not the end of the story.

[NWH]

You have to remember too that the majority are probably on here to pick up tips etc and so are reletively new to the game. Many like myself are still building their business up so to just pop out and buy a Carbon Facelift pole at whatever the price is a big decision. I can often hit the figures quoted on here but that's not the end of the story.

These comments about buying expensive poles are nothing to do with bragging or saying i can afford one and you can`t etc,if you buy these far far better quality poles they will last 10 fold over the cheaper ones and more.Invest in quality and it will serve you well but rubbish and you`ll be pulling your hair out with bits dropping off and snapping every 5 mins,tried and tested poles are facelift carbon fiber S2 by gardiners the facelift is mega strong and really light for it`s height ie 24ft carbon and for anything over that the S2 is the ultimate pole on the market,buy these 2 poles and in the long run you`ll save yourself not only money but backache not to mention days waiting in for your 3rd or 4th fiber glass pole to arrrive.

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Yep i agree with you on that NWH but..... the ideal quiver would be the Facelift or equivalent and an S2 for the high stuff probably close to a thousand pounds there with your brushes, goosenecks, connectors and all. Now if i tell the wife i want another stick to waggle my brush on for £650 plus then eyebrows are raised in my house -followed quickly by a raised voice (not mine)

[Wayne Thomas]

Yep i agree with you on that NWH but..... the ideal quiver would be the Facelift or equivalent and an S2 for the high stuff probably close to a thousand pounds there with your brushes, goosenecks, connectors and all. Now if i tell the wife i want another stick to waggle my brush on for £650 plus then eyebrows are raised in my house -followed quickly by a raised voice (not mine)

I assume you're married. Do you wear the trousers in your household?

[NWH]

They should earn you enough for it to not be a problem.