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SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2010, 11:56:27 pm »
Yep it does only heat the top up to a good temperature, although the overall temperature is increased.  I floated my sub pump so that it drew water from the top however if you have an external that draws water from the outlet then you'd always be pulling through the coldest stuff.

If you have a timer not only do you need to make sure that the tank is full but also that the timer itself is rated at 13amps.

There isn't an immersion heater that you could use in the van off of the van power as the currant is too much.

Simon.

d s windowcleaning

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2010, 12:08:46 am »
what size drill bit did you use when fitting this ?
where theres muck theres money

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2010, 05:39:20 am »
WHy not put the element in the base of the tank, not the top?  Not in the underside, I mean in the side at the bottom.

Spruce

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2010, 01:18:52 pm »
WHy not put the element in the base of the tank, not the top?  Not in the underside, I mean in the side at the bottom.

Hot water still rises and will still be at the top of the tank and the cooler water at the bottom no matter where your heating element is. This is why your hot water tank has it's outlet pipe at the top.
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SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2010, 01:50:56 pm »
I gave serious thought to putting the immersion at the bottom as that would be the best place for it, however making the joint water tight would be tricky and at the time I wanted a fast fix cheap warm water set up.

Simon.

Rob_Mac

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2010, 02:02:28 pm »
If you ran a sub pump without a hose on it in tandem with the heater set up it would circulate the water around the tank.

Rob ;D

Robin Ray

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2010, 02:10:32 pm »
A good idea!

How does the plastic of the tank cope with the heat?

Rob

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2010, 05:20:15 pm »
I'd be seriously worried about that.  You get all kind of weird expansion things going on.

Interesting what guy above said about the element in tanks usually being in the top - that's right, I think.  Take a look at an immersion tank and you'll see the same.

Anyway, immersion tanks are made from copper/metal, surely, not plastic?

Why not, therefore, have two immersion (copper) tanks in the van for wfp water?

dai

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2010, 05:55:02 pm »
When I run the babies bath the water is hottest near to the tap, It only takes a couple of paddle movements with my hand to even out the tempreture.
Surely the movement of water in the tank when your driving would even it out too.


Pureclean Essex Services

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2010, 12:20:30 pm »
surely if you fitted element at bottom of tank(proberbly only possible on flat tanks)the water would heat at bottom then rise,eventually giving you a full tank of reasonbly hot water afer a few hours,as long as it does'nt get to hot ,i would have thought tank should be ok,you can't heat water more than what pump can take anyway

Brian.

formb

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2010, 12:43:23 pm »
How did you fix it to the tank?

I bought an element and cant find a 2 1/4" retaining nut anywhere.

mark311069

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2010, 12:50:48 pm »
ive just put a immersion heater in my ibc today, i have supported it in the tank using bungees so its easy to move it up or down in the ibc depending how much water is in it at the time. its also easy to remove if needed,

Poles R Us

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2010, 12:58:33 pm »
ive just put a immersion heater in my ibc today, i have supported it in the tank using bungees so its easy to move it up or down in the ibc depending how much water is in it at the time. its also easy to remove if needed,

Now that does sound dangerous ??? ???

paul saunders

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2010, 01:02:58 pm »
How did you fix it to the tank?

I bought an element and cant find a 2 1/4" retaining nut anywhere.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p31429
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

formb

Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2010, 02:39:51 pm »
How did you fix it to the tank?

I bought an element and cant find a 2 1/4" retaining nut anywhere.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p31429

Cheers my dear.

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2010, 05:23:31 pm »
sherwood this is wat im after how long does this take to heat the water up

Spruce

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2010, 06:25:33 pm »
Its in the very first section of the thread
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geefree

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2010, 06:49:14 pm »
This must be the old thread steve had seen,

did mine today... 640 ibc... element at the bottom as the instructions stated, as the element heats everything above first.

was easy to seal ,using a threaded flange inside the tank.

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2010, 07:29:51 pm »
sherwood this is wat im after how long does this take to heat the water up

In the end I was putting the heater on for about 3 hours before I transferred the water bringing it upto a temperature of about 35C.  By the time it's gone down 100 meters of micro bore the it barely feels warm, however I can work all day without the poles or hoses freezing even on conservatory windows.

I've recently got an L5 to heat the water in the van instead as I feel that this will be a lot more efficient.

This is my third winter second full winter with this kind of set up and looking back it has saved me a lot of money, I can honestly say that I have not had a day off of work due to water freezing since I've done this.

Simon.

geefree

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Re: Immersion heater in IBC
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2010, 07:54:08 pm »
Simon , did you heat the water then tranfer it to van tank,... if so, that too will also lose heat,

i am thinking of getting it up to 50c.... heating  only enough water i think i will need for the day  ie.... 640 tank.... heat 300 litres....

just to give me a wage in this freeze.