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NWH

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Re: big quote
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2008, 08:54:57 pm »
Your probobly right Squeaky but you`d be surprised with some of them,i do a house like this and after i cleaned it about 5 times the results were very good far better than they would have been scriming them or small sqeeggeeing them.The worst thing with these window`s when they havn`t been done for ages is the spiders webs in the corners under the top sash.

brightnclean

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2008, 09:01:26 pm »
The people who own this property would expect to pay between £400-£500 for just the outside,i bet they have it in there mind that they want it done 3-4 times a year and have allowed a £2000 budget for it.

BANG ON THE MARK NWH!!!    Exactly my thoughts on this one.  OMG I think we have agreed 3 times now m8!!   :o  :o

Havin said that some silly person lookin thru rose coloured glasses will probably think  WOW it's commercial (Kudos and all that) and price it far too cheap. Slog their guts out doing it and wait up to 90 days or more to get paid.

AS to the results they will probably never come up perfect. Ladder or WFP. The frames WILL get better with time though if they aren't oxidised. I reckon you could do a perfectly ACCEPTABLE job using WFP.


suds window service

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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2008, 09:04:13 pm »
manager said the last lot did the bottoms for 90 quid but have not being back,i said thats probably why!

suds window service

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2008, 09:10:03 pm »
value your advice bn,clean as you gave me a lot of sound advice when i first came on about 5 months ago,if you remember we both had similar back grounds retail.......but yea this is my first commercial venture and if i am honest it,s way to big for me and me trolley,but i would like to do it .....and i thought it would take about 1 and half days to do it right...lol

suds window service

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2008, 09:24:54 pm »
by the way got another one to do tomorrow on an engineering place...office's so I'll need help with that one as well!

dai

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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2008, 09:41:13 pm »
I would want a really good inspection of those frames before I priced. If the frames are chalking, it could be a nightmare.
As for 2-2.5 hours, forget it, it's going to be at least a days work to get them right. If they were all nice double glazed units, I would do it for £250, but for those frames charge double. Dai

Alex Wingrove

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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2008, 09:43:47 pm »
NWH i am now with you £400

brightnclean

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Re: big quote
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2008, 09:55:53 pm »
value your advice bn,clean as you gave me a lot of sound advice when i first came on about 5 months ago,if you remember we both had similar back grounds retail.......but yea this is my first commercial venture and if i am honest it,s way to big for me and me trolley,but i would like to do it .....and i thought it would take about 1 and half days to do it right...lol

Thanks m8  :)

Price it up at £600 1st clean and if it takes u a couple of days thats not bad money in anyones book. I was thinking 2 guys all day actually so it works out the same. The 1st clean on this one will prob take twice as long as any other ones. There will be flaky paint and like Dai says have a GOOD look to watch for chalky frames..  These CAN be done but it takes an awfull lot of water. Perhaps this one is just too big for you at this point in time. Or.. maybe it's time to stick a tank in and run it from ur trolley mate... whatever you do well done on getting the chance to quote for this one and good luck with the one tomorrow. :)

Alex Wingrove

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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2008, 09:57:26 pm »
why dont you put a good price in, and see if there is anyone on here who wants to go half with you, and you use there van mount.


suds window service

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Re: big quote
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2008, 09:59:58 pm »
was thinking along them lines

brightnclean

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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2008, 10:09:44 pm »
I was also thinkin along those lines :)

If I was near you I would do it with u mate.

I notice from ur profile that u are at Stockton .. What's ur water from the tap like? If it is soft and it is the same at that place why not buy a decent sixe DI vessel and get a long hoseand do it directly from a tap at the property? Even if it costs u £100 in resin 1st clean u will be able to chuck plenty of water at it ..  wow what a good idea!!!  Say 100 TDS u will get 5000 ltrs pure from a bag of resin.. gotta be worth thinking about.

suds window service

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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2008, 10:13:35 pm »
13.5 ppm,and i,am still very very new to this game although my business is growing i know next to nothing about equipment or specs...help!

Chris Cottrell

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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2008, 10:15:19 pm »
I totally agree with Brighnclean on this one, there gonna give you so much greif on this the frames are in real bad shape, 2000l is in my book is about right I do one not so different from this if I remember it used up 1100l first clean and they were just dirty upvc frames, & all you can hope for on a first clean here is an "acceptable" result

I would nt do it from the tap first time you'll only end up doing it twice

suds window service

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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2008, 10:18:43 pm »
 bn,clean           your only down the road ,how about i put quote in for say 450 and you nip up and show me how it,s down

brightnclean

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Re: big quote
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2008, 10:42:54 pm »
OK lets look at this... 135 PPM will give u almost 4000 ltrs pure from one bag of resin.   SO..  if theres a tap or two there you can just hook up a DI vessel.. say an 18x6.. (Around 1/4 of a bag per fill) and hook a reel up to it with a flow tap in line to regulate flow down.. the tap pressure will be plenty to work reel and pole and.. bingo  u can do it without worrying about water use.

Cost of DI vessel around £60-70.. resin say £40 for 1st clean.. £20 ish per clean after that and u can use the DI vessel every time... it couldn't be simpler.. Ohh and if the othet lot did just the ground floor for £90 and never came back then £600 for 1st and £400 after should be accepted. Just explain that the first will take u around twice the time to do. Even if u have to buy a reel with 100 mtrs mini/microbore that job will pay for the kit easily 1st clean then ur in gravyland. U can get a good reel with 100 mtrs minibore on it for about £140.

Thanks for the offer of the trip up mate but honestly u dont need me and It's a 200 mile round trip for me  :(

Alex Wingrove

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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2008, 11:03:56 pm »
thats a good idea,

you wont need to spend that on a reel either, just get a inexpensive hozelock, you can get them for £12, minibore is £60, bobs your uncle are you are away