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Poll

Would you like licensing in England

Yes
69.2%
83 (69.2%)
No
30.8%
37 (30.8%)

Total Members Voted: 116

DASERVICES

Licensing in England
« on: February 24, 2008, 08:52:22 pm »
As a lot of you know have been involved in with SLWCN in Scotland and now we are getting good results.

Have been asked to help in England, the simple answer is yes it can be done.

So will in future help but has to be a majority vote , 65% yes.

Want to know your thoughts before I will commit any time, just a survey.

Ta

Doug

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2008, 08:59:28 pm »
I've given enough detailed explanations as to my views about this subject on CPs
The answer is YES

Andy@w.c.s

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2008, 09:07:49 pm »
For those of us with nothing to fear and legit businesses a big yes

For the good weather and dole boys a big no

should only be a big yes on here then ????

jeff1

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2008, 09:11:43 pm »
Doug you know my thoughts on this subject and voted a big YES!

Only on the condition that we get value for our license fee, and the council don't just sit behind there desks playing with there pencils.

The only thing I don't like about this License issue is the need for councils to charge for each individual area, I work in 6 area's so that's 6 separate fee's I would have to pay.

Andy@w.c.s

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2008, 09:17:52 pm »
I agree with jeff
it will need to be policed with a vengeance
both from the council side and ours with a anonymity and enforcement that makes it a real deterrent to the summer and dole crowd

dave0123

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 09:23:59 pm »
I belive it could work!!

aslong as all the public no now a window cleaner has to be lincenced!!

because if they dont then nothing will happen unless its policed properly and i carnt really see that happning

what are the requirements in scotland to get a licence
Dave.

Mike_G

  • Posts: 1500
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 09:30:33 pm »
How much does the license in Scotland cost?


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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 09:37:40 pm »
http://www.slwcn.org/area.htm

We are working on the above.

What you need to consider is do you want to be Police checked or not, the licensed will have to have some conditions otherwise anyone can apply. What I would recommend is have to be registered with the Inland Revenue etc..

Will need around 100+ votes on this plus a lot of research, have got some powerful players but it will facts and figures etc...

It will have to be a trial basis in one area before it can be copied accross all England but you have the advantage, it's what you want but you have to consider what will keep out the beer brigade.

Will keep this running for a few weeks.


Doug

d s windowcleaning

  • Posts: 2782
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 09:48:08 pm »
bring it on the sooner the better imo , hopefully get shut of the dodgy cleaners & beer  monsters . but like jeff1 says about each area needing a licence i work 8 diffrent areas so cost would be a big factor for some who do a few areas . SAYING THAT IF IT WAS POLICED PROPERLY it would maybe get rid of the dodgy ones so picking there work up would maybe compensate the cost .
where theres muck theres money

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 10:11:07 pm »
I know a bloke up the road from me, who's been on the dole for as long as I have lived here (15 years) and he's a w/c, his whole family have been in and out of nick, so whats going to stop this sort of guy flouting the license law? will it be enforced enough to stop him? I very much doubt it.
I would back this  Licensing  100% if I knew it would be policed properly.

paulscotney

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 10:19:43 pm »
The present government couldn't run a p... up in a brewery.  It is a good idea in principle but Gordon Brown and his mates will just waste everyones money.

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 10:23:50 pm »
The money does not go to the government, it goes to the industry  ;)

pjulk

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 10:25:20 pm »
I voted no

Because i doubt very my no one will enforce it and would just be another money spinner for the council.


Paul

paulscotney

Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 10:27:33 pm »
The government don't even supply basic lifesaving equipment to our soldiers, such as bullet proof vests and armour for their Land Rovers, so what chance is there of them providing finance for "window cleaning licence checkers"
None I would have thought.

poleman

  • Posts: 2854
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 10:29:11 pm »
Have been asked to help in England

Which trade association, if you dont mind me ask

Andy
PS i voted YES can only be good  

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2008, 10:30:32 pm »
Just to point out this is your say, not Councils or goverment. You set criterias and agendas and KPI's which relevant Councils have to meet.

The key factor is KPI's , then you will win. For those who do not know Key Performance Indicators. For instance they have to meet 1000 checks in a year etc... The list goes on.

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2008, 10:34:45 pm »
Have been asked to help in England

Which trade association, if you dont mind me ask

Andy
PS i voted YES can only be good  


No trade association, you will know why ;)

Just general window cleaners that want this, they are fed up of scrapping a living and to be paid what they are worth. The template is in Scotland, in a few months we will have this. We have data bases facts and figures.

It's worth a try as long as there is support.

poleman

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Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2008, 10:45:32 pm »
100% my support, as I have heard you have done good things in Scotland  ;) as long as it does involve CM!

Andy

brett walker

  • Posts: 1943
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2008, 11:09:52 pm »
I voted a definate yes

as long as its run and organised in the right way so we benefit the customer benefits and the council doesnt make all the pfofit

on a smaller note i would like to see more profiles fill in correctly such as the location

Brett

TennetClean

  • Posts: 497
Re: Licensing in England
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2008, 11:32:26 pm »
to be totally honest I cannot decide yes or no

YES because it may help to deal with the ropey element for whom window cleaning is easy money.

NO because I dont trust local councils to run something like this properly.  Also if it wasnt enforced it would be yet another tax on legit businesses

Got me split both ways this one has.

Doug, in Scotland. who decides if you cant get a licence?  is it the local council? and what factors will make somebody disqualified?
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