[Phillip Mold]

I've been using  ZAp it since eco went out os ftock, not happy with it though, wating for the new solutions RX to be available.

[Joe H]

Seems quiet a few have got hold of Solutions RX Phillip. Have you made contact?

[Straker Cleaning]

Just about to go out today and use my RX Spotter for first time ........................ let us see if Mystic Meg is right  :

[jacko]

Hi Chris - how do you rate it?

[Straker Cleaning]

Worked on old wool stair carpet with half inch draft marks ......... also removed the black spot marks where draft comes through across stair by riser  When i find where kids have moved my  Memory Stick adaptor, i will put before and after photos up  :

Have got great pic of RX bottle in front of royal throne in Lords chamber ......... took before and afters of spotting work i did and noticed the scene in corner ........... arise Sir RX (shame i am not allowed to post it )

[gwrightson]

    

so how did I do chris

geoff

[stevegunn]

Noticed the logo change on woc are they no longer dealing with Solution Glöckner?

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Steve

That was my reading as well, where does that leave Allergstop ?

Cheers

Doug

[stevegunn]

Hi Steve

That was my reading as well, where does that leave Allergstop ?

Cheers

Doug

Down the pan I would imagine no allerg-stop on woc.Sometime ago Gunter asked if I knew of a good distributor in the Uk as there were things he was not happy about  in the Uk,don't know if anything came of it

[Len Gribble]

Steve

You should have pointed Gunter in the direction of http://www.allergyuk.org/ 

Len

[ianharper]

Nice to be told of the change?

how can you trust a someone that is selling a product or a machine one day and not the next. gives you something to think about when making your buying mind up. if its a product that's not such a problem, but if its a machine then where is the back up?

we all know that the market for people selling stuff to us not that big in the UK. so these guys that provide us with products and machines can do one of two things, one get a great product range and machines and sell those to us over and over, or keep selling as the "latest" product or machine.

I think the second way will have an effect over time as people will get feed up with being told that this is the latest thing and then it gets dropped and then they are told that this new thing is the latest thing.

just take a look at chemspec range, prochem or alltec or any other range for that matter. they add to that range.

the really sad thing here is that is the new guys that get caught out. for most of us once is all we need.

testing products is something that we all should do all the time. as no one situation is the same so how can any product be great on every job. i work a system that has the main product and then a back up. this way you never have to depend on any one supplier or product.

i will bet that you can take any new product and find an old one that does the job as good and in most case cheaper, as it does not have to cover marketing or development costs. the only reason the new product looks so good is that you are being sold it, and the old one is just sitting on the shelve.

respect

ian harper

[stevegunn]

Nice to be told of the change?

how can you trust a someone that is selling a product or a machine one day and not the next. gives you something to think about when making your buying mind up. if its a product that's not such a problem, but if its a machine then where is the back up?

we all know that the market for people selling stuff to us not that big in the UK. so these guys that provide us with products and machines can do one of two things, one get a great product range and machines and sell those to us over and over, or keep selling as the "latest" product or machine.

I think the second way will have an effect over time as people will get feed up with being told that this is the latest thing and then it gets dropped and then they are told that this new thing is the latest thing.

just take a look at chemspec range, prochem or alltec or any other range for that matter. they add to that range.

the really sad thing here is that is the new guys that get caught out. for most of us once is all we need.

testing products is something that we all should do all the time. as no one situation is the same so how can any product be great on every job. i work a system that has the main product and then a back up. this way you never have to depend on any one supplier or product.

i will bet that you can take any new product and find an old one that does the job as good and in most case cheaper, as it does not have to cover marketing or development costs. the only reason the new product looks so good is that you are being sold it, and the old one is just sitting on the shelve.

respect

ian harper

That's spot on we all want the best equipment,chemicals and service but to what degree.The chemspecs and prochem tend to just tweak what they already have not sell you a machine as the best portable since sliced bread then a couple of months say "oh sorry but its not that brilliant now this is"

It's OK being big on innovation but what about loyalty to your customers who helped build the company up.We are all guilty of buying the "latest" product which is going to revolutionise our industry the only winners in this are the suppliers

[carpet guy]

Oh dear, what a pity !

What should be taken from the experience, is the fact that Miracles don't happen,  when a marketing machine get under way the sole purpose is to make the people behind the marketing rich.

If the marketing falters...........a new "innovation" will be introduced until it falters and it will be replaced by a " new innovation " and so on and so on.

rob

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

YOU JUST GOT A NEW PROWLER STEVE XXXXXX

[stevegunn]

YOU JUST GOT A NEW PROWLER STEVE XXXXXX

Tax reasons

[ianharper]

don't forget that this product or any other product that does not have woolsafe approved could damage wool carpets. sometimes when you have a product that claims power then safety might not be so important to the maker after all it's you that will own the carpet if it damages it

anyone tried the new johnsonDiversey product Nu Vac?

i don't think Nick  has become rich with any product he markets. why do you think he is making the changes in product range. my question is how long before the next change. and what about all those other people that have put money in the past in to an idea. its just a shame that he has given up so quick.

if you watch say the rug doctor advert what do they talk about allergens. and think about how many of your customers have watched that advert? i know its scare marketing and people don't like that, but allergens have to be dealt with if you are a carpet cleaner.

dirt is not the only thing we are as professional cleaners asked to remove. as professional carpet cleaners we should be removing everything with in the carpet and also protecting it all as part of a "Standard" service.

I just P****d he gave up so quick and did not do lots more things that don't cost money to promote it.

like for example, if you only give out limited amount of info regarding marketing that product then it follows that everyone will copy it. with the internet that's not a great idea. why? because Google will see all this text as the same and not included it in its results. so this is just as bad as not telling anyone. not great marketing.

Just watch the FT guys the only way they will get great listing is by PPC. that's why Robert should as i have always said teach people like JP does and that's the rules of direct response marketing. copying what ideas that work offline is a great idea, will not work on the online. watch out franchises.

Google has just copywrited a new algorithm and its aimed at this.

respect

Ian Harper

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Don't know what the problem is. I for one am glad to see that solutions are making the changes they do.

Just imagine if nobody did this we'd all still be driving around in morris minors or austin allegros or something. No thanks.

And what about alltec didn't they drop steamway and take on blue line. and restormate with the prowler there always seems to be a new addition there aswell and woodbridge dropping thier old truckmount and bringing in the chemtex machine.

You can't always point a shaking finger at solutions for doing what virtually all the other companies are doing. They still have the back up and support for all their old ranges of both products and machines so whats the problem anybody knows that things will be superseeded at some point!

Cheers Goron

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Goron

Are you still a member of the Allergstop network and if so is Gunter supplying direct.

Cheers

Doug

[Straker Cleaning]

Nearing last of my AllergSTOP stock so i will need refill soon ............ will find out myself 

[ianharper]

doug any new of anyone taking it up in the UK.