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Ian W

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Buying work
« on: February 14, 2008, 07:40:26 pm »
I am considering buying some work. Does anyone know how the tax man treats this? Is it considered capital investment or an expense?
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

pjulk

Re: Buying work
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 08:12:32 pm »
Neither as far as i know you cant claim for goodwill.
If you buy a round thats what you are buying.

But im not an accountant so may be wrong

Paul

Ian W

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 08:49:34 pm »
So, nothing can be claimed back.  :o

Oh well...  :'(
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

Paul Coleman

Re: Buying work
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 10:55:52 pm »
So, nothing can be claimed back.  :o

Oh well...  :'(

If it's buying a round then it's goodwill and I understand it can't be offset against your tax bill.
Not sure if the same applies to "canvassing", "consultancy", or "marketing" fees though.  Depends how much you want to stretch a point I guess.

Ian W

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 05:43:59 am »
I want to keep everything above board, so I won't stretch it.
Still, I'll be getting an accountant this year, so that might help me save a few bob!  ;D
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

Re: Buying work
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 05:51:29 am »
I want to keep everything above board, so I won't stretch it.
Still, I'll be getting an accountant this year, so that might help me save a few bob!  ;D
Time is dragging today good morning Ian

A good accountant is worth every penny  ;)

Ian W

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 06:28:11 am »
Morning Ian.
Yes, I decided with the jump into full time self employment that I should get an accountant. There have been plenty of other posts on this, and nobody seems to have regretted it!  ;D
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

Ian Rochester

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 06:30:48 am »
Providing you get a receipt from the seller, then there should be no problem claiming it as an offset against your tax

Ian W

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 08:06:33 am »
Thanks Ian (Lionheart).
No doubt the accountant will sort this out now, but I was trying to get some figures sorted out to show how much it might benefit me year by year.
Any idea what percentage could be offset?
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

matt

Re: Buying work
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 01:53:03 pm »
My accountant said and i qoute " you cannot put the payment against your books, as its just a goodwill payment and you have nothing to show for it "


Paul Coleman

Re: Buying work
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 04:55:47 pm »
My accountant said and i qoute " you cannot put the payment against your books, as its just a goodwill payment and you have nothing to show for it "



Although I've never bought a round myself, I ran this past my accountant after you posted this a while back Matt.  He said pretty much the same thing as your accountant.

Central Window Cleaners

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 05:00:39 pm »
When I bought my first round I bought the whole business including the ladders and tools etc. and my accountant has put the through my books and it deprieciates over 10 years

tompoole

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 05:03:00 pm »
ian

Not sure about buying work. have you thought about leafleting on a regular basis. i have just started up and have leafletdrops planned for the whole year in different places and villages. that way you can pick and choose your work and have a bit more control.

Put the first lot out this month and have had a steady trickle of work. not ideal if you want instant cash but i would imagine its a lot cheaper.

tom

Ian W

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Re: Buying work
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 11:19:05 pm »
Sorry for the lack of replies - I had to visit my parents tonight. My dad has just been told he has to give up driving and they are a bit fed up.

Well, the round I am looking at is being sold with some wfp equipment. Perhaps I will be lucky enough to be able to put some or all of it by the tax man.

Got an appointment with an accountant on Tuesday, so will have a quick chat with him then.

I would like to canvas for my own work, but with 4 other mouths to feed, I need instant income really.

I did think about taking a loan and using that as "wages" while I built up work, but then I was concerned that I might not be able to get as much as we needed before the money ran out.
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens