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*paul_moss

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White streaks in red Axminister
« on: December 01, 2004, 08:55:22 pm »
Cleaned a Kitchen carpet today for a new customer.When she paid me I noticed that the Axminister carpet in the hallway had what looks like fine white lines running through it ( a little like soapy jet marks).
When I asked her what had happened she said that the carpet was fitted 2 years ago and she was not happy when it was fitted ( wierd but it looks like a dead cheap carpet even though she paid £47 per sq metre for it)
On checking it out it is Axminister and is wool.
The main colour is red which shows up the  white lines.
She had a carpet cleaner in last year to clean it but the white lines appeared.
I thought it was detergent left in and tested it with solution 4 and spotter which improved it slightly,when i tested with eco spotter i got major colour transfer  (red).

Has any body else ever come accross this or tell me what they think may be the problem.

Is it a dodgy carpet?

Paul
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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Dynafoam

Re: White streaks in red Axminster
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2004, 11:02:13 pm »
Paul,

By "fine" lines, do you mean a single tuft-line?

I inspected an axminster a few years ago which had been cleaned (to a fairly acceptable standard) then exhibited a similar symptom running through the pattern, but affecting the red fibres only. These 'lines' were about 9" or 10" apart.

I uplifted the carpet at one end and removed sample red pile  from the part of the carpet which had been folded into the gully, so not cleaned. All the samples that were in line with the 'white lines' surrendered their dye readily when given a short soak in mild sodium bicarbonate solution, then pressed dry between tissues.

Red pile removed from between these lines, though showing some bleed, maintained close to the original colour.

My conclusion was that the mill had acquired a faulty dye batch and that these spools had been loaded on the loom at regular intervals. Within ten days of my report being handed to the retailer , the mill contacted the customer direct inviting her to visit the retailer to select a replacement carpet from their range, at their expense. My conclusion was neither confirmed nor denied, but the readiness to replace £2,500 without further inspection suggests that they were aware of a problem with some of their output.

The fact that we both refer to red fibres is no coincidence since this colour tends to be the most susceptible to bleed.

*paul_moss

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Re: White streaks in red Axminister
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2004, 12:53:18 am »
Thanks for reply John
The lines are all over the place and only very faint. At first I thought some body had dragged something over the carpet to leave these marks but not the case as on closer inspection I find that they are all over the place with no given pattern and are only centimetres apart.
Never seen it before.


Paul

ps The customer is not bothered as she is moving soon.I just wanted to know for my own interest.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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Dynafoam

Re: White streaks in red Axminster
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 01:09:34 am »
Paul,

Clearly a different situation.

Are the lines wand-stroke length? It is possible to remove dye from a carpet and produce narrow lines due to faulty jets. When a jet wears the spray pattern can change from an even fan-spray to a series of fine needle-jets. The result can be 'micro-streaking'.

Only a guess.

*paul_moss

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Re: White streaks in red Axminister
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 02:46:39 pm »
John that is what it looks like. How does the faulty jets cause the damage.It also sounds like that he was using a truckmount

regards
paul
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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Dynafoam

Re: White streaks in red Axminster
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 07:21:14 pm »
Paul,

The micro-streaking is due to the fact that instead of an even, fan-shaped 'sheet' of water being delivered to the carpet, the water is concentrated into  a pattern of needle jets, with some fill-in droplets in between.

On many carpets the may not produce noticeable results, but on a carpet where the dye is a bit fragile, the amount of dye removed by the needle-jets will be greater than in the in-between areas. The higher the pressure and temperature employed, the more pronounced the  micro-streaking will be.

I hope this makes it clear.