[Amethyst]

I used to be of the opinion that HWE was king. But I realise now that there is a place for all of the different methods of carpet cleaning. In addition to the Scorpion I have a med speed rotary (not DF or Text). Went to a job three weeks ago - tiny bungalow with a disabled elderly lady you could not swing a cat literally (she had two by the way) Cream BW throughout. No room for HWE machine let alone hoses and wand, so used Catalyst. I just shove the pad into a bucket of very hot water with the solution. Worked fine. This week just finished three days at a hotel - again BW everywhere. This time used Micro-splitter agitated with the rotary using a soft brush and padded off with a plain water rinse. Owners comments? "That machine of yours must be very good, when you set up I nearly said "you won't get much of a result with that" but I kept my mouth shut because I thought you'd prove me wrong - and you did!".

Its horses for courses in my view - thats what makes this job so much fun!

[mark shannon]

Ian great buy   ;)However a second hand rotary could be bought for peanuts and with Charley's is an economical way into commercial carpet tile acreage.

[robert stubbs]

I get very good results with a Oscillating pad machine, because of its orbital action it cleans both sides of the carpet fibre and doesn't leave any swirl marks.

  Rob.

[JS2]

Rob

Would that happen to be the Challenger OP machine or something similar or lighter ?

Pete (JS2)

[*paul_moss]

Im not a fan of Oscillating machines and find a heavy slow rotating buffer produces better results, but as with every thing else its each to its own, Charley pads are very food and particularly with M/S. These days I tend to get best results from my Thermadry and Rotobrite with standard bonnets.

[Neil Williams]

Are super charlys worth considering for low pro jobs? £120 and a wringer.

Please don't waste £70 odd on the wringer from the same company as the Charlie pads come from. (that's me never to be allowed on their web site again but tough). With the best will in the world it was not designed to wring out the rather stiff charlie pads, infact I'd go as far as to say it's only a normal mop bucket wringer. The gears keep slipping if you use anything stiffer than a floor mop.
Charlie pads are ok, nowhere near as good as all the hype but satisfactory for commercial. Done the comparison and cotton pads are far supperior.

[Mark Lane-Matthews]

Yes my one snapped from solutions,get a decent galvanized wringer its worth paying the extra.

                                                  Mark

[Len Gribble]

Charlie work to a point but doesn’t every thing, wringer a total waist of money Builder bucket a lot cheaper got that info from JB before his solutions days.

Len

[mark shannon]

Yes i would only use Charley's on low profile and preferable tiles where i have had superb results

[Joe H]

Please don't waste £70 odd on the wringer from the same company as the Charlie pads come from. (that's me never to be allowed on their web site again but tough). With the best will in the world it was not designed to wring out the rather stiff charlie pads, infact I'd go as far as to say it's only a normal mop bucket wringer. The gears keep slipping if you use anything stiffer than a floor mop.
Charlie pads are ok, nowhere near as good as all the hype but satisfactory for commercial. Done the comparison and cotton pads are far supperior.

I am sure John Bolton even in the last few months has said what you do with Charly pads is squeeze from the edges as much as possible. More so the edges, then centrifugal force keeps the whole pad damp starting from the inside.
I didnt think you can fold a Charley pad so it fits into a wringer.

To the guy who broke his wringer - yes I can see that happening if "excessive" force is used. But, if its a weakness in the product do you blames the selller or the manufacturer?

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Joe , by law it's the sellers responsibility , it's up to him to make sure the product is fit for the job.

If the seller has a problem with quality then it's up to him to take this up with his seller, which  may be the manufacturer.

Otherwise every seller would just pass the buck.

Cheers

Doug

[stevegunn]

Please don't waste £70 odd on the wringer from the same company as the Charlie pads come from. (that's me never to be allowed on their web site again but tough). With the best will in the world it was not designed to wring out the rather stiff charlie pads, infact I'd go as far as to say it's only a normal mop bucket wringer. The gears keep slipping if you use anything stiffer than a floor mop.
Charlie pads are ok, nowhere near as good as all the hype but satisfactory for commercial. Done the comparison and cotton pads are far supperior.

I am sure John Bolton even in the last few months has said what you do with Charly pads is squeeze from the edges as much as possible. More so the edges, then centrifugal force keeps the whole pad damp starting from the inside.
I didnt think you can fold a Charley pad so it fits into a wringer.

To the guy who broke his wringer - yes I can see that happening if "excessive" force is used. But, if its a weakness in the product do you blames the selller or the manufacturer?

Too many have damaged their wringer to say it was heavy handiness due to the fact the winger was not up to it end Of story.Mine broke too

[carpet guy]

It's going against JB's advice, but I ended up using my 14 stone on a board to squeeze out the excess, not perfect, by any means, but I felt it would be less damaging to the pad.

rob

 

[Joe H]

Hi Guys
Joe , by law it's the sellers responsibility , it's up to him to make sure the product is fit for the job.
If the seller has a problem with quality then it's up to him to take this up with his seller, which  may be the manufacturer.
Otherwise every seller would just pass the buck.
Cheers Doug

Completly agree with you 100% with what you have said Doug.
But the statement I made was "if its a weakness in the product do you blames the selller or the manufacturer?"
Yes you need to go to the supplier and they take it up with the manufacturer/his supplier, but IMO the fault still is the manufacturers for making a weak product.

[carpet guy]

Was the product being used as recommended by the manufacturer, or was it being used for something it was never designed to cope with.

Who suggested it would cope with the stresses it was placed under when attempting to something other thn " wring out " cotton or similar mops.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Robert I'm surprised ther was any moisture left in it when you put your weight on it.

Shaun

[Mark Lane-Matthews]

The wringer was not man enough or large enough for the purpose it was bought for, which was to sqeeze out the dirty water from Charley pads ,the buckets and trolley it came with are good though.I now use a heavy duty wringer now which is ideal.
                                                              Mark

[Mike Osbourne]

So are super charlys better than ordinary ones? I realise they can't compete with the likes of texatherm, but as a standard rotary option?

[Ian Rochester]

Went and bought some genuine Texatherm Advanced cleaner to see how well the machine performed with the correct chemicals.

Got to say the results were pretty impressive, used it on a large area, 400m² of carpet tiles last night and even the client was suitably impressed with the result, especially in the high traffic areas and the foot shuffle areas.

[Mike Osbourne]

Have you tried Catalyst from Craftex before?