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Kev R

Rinsing brush on glass
« on: January 18, 2008, 06:17:05 pm »
I have quite a few jobs at between 40 and 60 feet.  These I have been rinsing with the brush on the glass (mostly commercial) because its too hard on the body to lift the brush to rinse. On 99% of domestic I lift the brush from the glass to rinse.

I use a monofilament brush with no 2 pencil jets on all my poles

I saw a post the other day (that I can no longer find) about using bigger jets for rinsing brush on glass.

Anybody do this or have any advice please?



NWH

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 06:27:17 pm »
It`s not by having bigger jets it`s the brush and flowrate,at the heights your talking about you don`t even need to be thinking about lifting off to rinse,just turn up the flow and stick to your mono brush.I hardly ever lift off to rinse on upstairs windows of any height there`s no need to,it`s all about confidence once you see that it`s hardly needed it will really speed you up.

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 06:31:45 pm »
It`s not by having bigger jets it`s the brush and flowrate,at the heights your talking about you don`t even need to be thinking about lifting off to rinse,just turn up the flow and stick to your mono brush.I hardly ever lift off to rinse on upstairs windows of any height there`s no need to,it`s all about confidence once you see that it`s hardly needed it will really speed you up.

In theory, I agree........................................


Not got the guts to do it though ::) ::) ::)

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2008, 06:44:19 pm »
Agree.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2008, 07:11:43 pm »
This is an interesting post. I personally rinse off the glass on all windows, I zig zag down the window which makes those little bits of dirt flow off the glass ( understand ?). Well when you rinse on the glass do you brush those bits of with a downward motion?






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Wayne Thomas

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2008, 07:13:14 pm »
Always rinse brush on regardless of height with a Tucker brush and plenty of water.

NWH

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2008, 07:23:36 pm »
A good brush should retain next to no dirt or bits,what i do is jet my brushes with them at the front of the stock,therefore when you go down the window on the final strokes the water is the last thing on the glass.Jetting your brushes like this has the same effect as the ionics overhead jets this allows you to rinse on the glass,if your having problems with rinsing on your probobly using a flocked brush.

m.b.s.

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 07:26:57 pm »
luke the brush you bought off of ebat the black ionic one that people said was a fake is that mono or flock do you still use it what do you think of it as i have one if i was to change it what would you recomend

Tom Mac

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 07:47:38 pm »
NWH
what i do is jet my brushes with them at the front of the stock,
Can you explain a bit more and if its what i think it is, what jets do you use and where can i get them from?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 07:53:07 pm »
I use mono brushes NWH, but am unsure how you are going about rinsing on - could you explain? thanks

mbs. I don't like the ionics dual trim mono anymore, I much prefer my mono vikans and sometimes a super-lite brush. The vikan is a really good brush but much too heavy, but I make do!!! Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

NWH

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 07:54:16 pm »
There just standard 2mm jets but like you say positioned at the front of the stock,if your using a flocked brush you could always do what some other wc`s do and use car windscreen water jets positioned actually on the top of the brush and not drilled through the stock at all.By doing that your be almost certain that water will be the last thing on the glass,the best ones to go for if you choose this way are jets from audi or volvo`s they give a better more even jet of water.

NWH

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 07:55:35 pm »
Vikan mono,oh my god i hate that brush. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 07:57:21 pm »
I thought I would hate it but I dont. So how do you go about rinsing on NWH after scrubbing the glass? Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

m.b.s.

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 08:05:32 pm »
I use mono brushes NWH, but am unsure how you are going about rinsing on - could you explain? thanks

mbs. I don't like the ionics dual trim mono anymore, I much prefer my mono vikans and sometimes a super-lite brush. The vikan is a really good brush but much too heavy, but I make do!!! Luke
why dont you like it any more luke i love it

Kev R

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 08:08:03 pm »
This is an interesting post. I personally rinse off the glass on all windows, I zig zag down the window which makes those little bits of dirt flow off the glass ( understand ?). Well when you rinse on the glass do you brush those bits of with a downward motion?





Thanks for all the replies but what technique should you use if leaving your brush on the glass with a standard jetted brush?



Wayne Thomas

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 08:09:03 pm »
Luke

Regarding your rinsing diagrams for rinsing with brush on glass. If the window is narrow I  zig zag across the entire length. If it's really wide glass then I do it in stages as per the second diagram or a combination of both. The most important thing about rinsing with brush on is using a mono filament brush which doesn't retain the dirt particles in the bristles and having a sufficent flow of water so there is some weight pulling the dirt down.

Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 08:32:09 pm »
I would point out that water flows down on it's own (not zig zag as in diagram).

I mainly use a flocked brush and rinse on, mainly down.

I believe a hot system retains less dirt in the brush.

And of course I do have a high flow rate.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2008, 08:35:27 pm »
thanks for the help!

Quote
would point out that water flows down on it's own (not zig zag as in diagram).


that zig zag is the direction in which I send the jets, I know gravity takes water downwards, unless physics are different here in Wales  :)
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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2008, 08:49:51 pm »
Some little arrows acknowledging that would have been nice.

What Wayne said is slightly different to what I said(I'm flocked and fan he's mono and jet) . But I think Wayne will agree that no matter what he did , with his system it's very hard to do a bad job. I used to get the odd complaint- even rinsing brush off, but now it comes out right no matter what i do.


NWH

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Re: Rinsing brush on glass
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2008, 09:00:29 pm »
What people don`t realise i think is that the odd bits of dirt that is left on the glass when cleaning make no difference the end result 9 x out of 10 when dried,by bits of dirt i mean a few speckles.