[stevekennedy]

There is a health and safety issue with the modulars that worries me...

What is to stop the pole coming apart if the brush head reaches the sill and then you accidentaly pull down too much?

The part above the seperated section would just come crashing down. Anyone else thought of this?

[Wayne Thomas]

The external hose wrapped around the modular pole keeps it all tightly secured together. Even if you pull down on the pole with the brush head resting on the sill. It is possible though.

[AuRavelling79]

The external hose wrapped around the modular pole keeps it all tightly secured together. Even if you pull down on the pole with the brush head resting on the sill. It is possible though.

Never happened to me.

[NWH]

Modulars do break,i`ve had one just snap at 30ft for no reason luckily the pole hose did stop it falling on a parked car but i certainly wouldn`t want to use one in an area with a lot of people about just in case,if anything happened you wouldn`t have a leg to stand on as far as H&S goes,Alex`s new pole complies with H&S regs.

[stevekennedy]

I am thinking of glueing velcro just above and below the join. Then just putting velcro over the joint. Also, thought about glueing the velcro hose tidys onto the pole at intervals. This would stop them slipping down if the pole snapped or separated.

WOndered if anyone had any better ideas?

[Wayne Thomas]

I am thinking of glueing velcro just above and below the join. Then just putting velcro over the joint. Also, thought about glueing the velcro hose tidys onto the pole at intervals. This would stop them slipping down if the pole snapped or separated.

WOndered if anyone had any better ideas?

I glued velcro strips to my modular pole sections. Velcro'd the gooseneck so the hose couldn't be pulled off the 'Y' piece by accident. Hose wraps around the pole and is secured with velcro straps to the glued velcro on the pole. That way if the pole snaps, the hose (secured by the velcro straps) won't fall on anyone. I do high jobs in the middle of town centres with lots of passing public so safety is important to me. Better safe than sorry.

[Jon-scwindows]

i dont get how these poles can be that strong at the joins anyway? and how they can be very sturdy? i would think they flex allot? i dont know i dont have one - at first i thought that each join was like a hoselock connector you clip them together and that joins the water up too, but you say you have the hose on the outside?

[Captain Scarlet]

i dont get how these poles can be that strong at the joins anyway? and how they can be very sturdy? i would think they flex allot? i dont know i dont have one - at first i thought that each join was like a hoselock connector you clip them together and that joins the water up too, but you say you have the hose on the outside?

Until you hold a Super-lite 2 you wont understand, its the weave of carbon fibre that makes the strength. a S2 is extremely strong and stiff....its the strongest modular of its type for window cleaning. The unger modular has hozelock style connectors between sections but the S2 is a push fit with the hose outside, Luke

[stevekennedy]

I am thinking of glueing velcro just above and below the join. Then just putting velcro over the joint. Also, thought about glueing the velcro hose tidys onto the pole at intervals. This would stop them slipping down if the pole snapped or separated.

WOndered if anyone had any better ideas?

I glued velcro strips to my modular pole sections. Velcro'd the gooseneck so the hose couldn't be pulled off the 'Y' piece by accident. Hose wraps around the pole and is secured with velcro straps to the glued velcro on the pole. That way if the pole snaps, the hose (secured by the velcro straps) won't fall on anyone. I do high jobs in the middle of town centres with lots of passing public so safety is important to me. Better safe than sorry.

That is basically, exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation

[Sir Squeaky]

You could just learn to catch.

You're not England's goalie by any chance?

[Alex Gardiner]

As with all things there is always a possibility that such a thing could happen but the probability of it happening is very small.  The main reason for this is that to pull the top section out of the section above, you need to exert a straight pull.  The angle of pulling, if you manage to get your gooseneck brush caught on the windowsill, would actually exert pressure in a slightly lateral way as well as vertically due to the offset of the gooseneck.  This would make it very difficult to pull the section out of the gooseneck.  If using Velcro straps (as per the S2 kit), then the hose will always hold the brushhead up.  The new Velcro stretchy straps that we supply with the S2 does an even better job of holding the hose tightly to the pole.

[stevekennedy]

Hi Alex

I understand and agree with you. I guess I haven't learned to trust the pole's integrity yet. Keep thinking it's going to snap at the top where the pole joins the small section. I guess I am looking for a belt and braces approach to the H&S.

Are there any reasons why we wouldn't want to glue the hose tidys on to the pole? If we did want to, what would be the best adhesive.

I am thinking of using Bostick impact adhesive. Or maybe araldite.

Will these damage the pole at all?

Also, I think it is a good idea to put a few wraps of PTFE tape around the threads on the top of the pole before screwing on the G-Fit gooseneck as mine came loose on me and the metal hit the glass  (No damage done though  )
The PTFE tape keeps it really tight. Might want to add that to your instructions if you agree. Even chuck in a roll of it with every G-fit?

[Jeff Brimble]

I use the hose itself and a simple 180 degree twist to anchor  the hose to the pole with what I call The "Magic Knot" to any or all the sections required as the pole is assembled. When you take it apart it just drops off the butt end. Use for any height pole.
Its on the diy site.

[Alex Gardiner]

Hi Alex

I understand and agree with you. I guess I haven't learned to trust the pole's integrity yet. Keep thinking it's going to snap at the top where the pole joins the small section. I guess I am looking for a belt and braces approach to the H&S.

Are there any reasons why we wouldn't want to glue the hose tidys on to the pole? If we did want to, what would be the best adhesive.

I am thinking of using Bostick impact adhesive. Or maybe araldite.

Will these damage the pole at all?

Also, I think it is a good idea to put a few wraps of PTFE tape around the threads on the top of the pole before screwing on the G-Fit gooseneck as mine came loose on me and the metal hit the glass  (No damage done though  )
The PTFE tape keeps it really tight. Might want to add that to your instructions if you agree. Even chuck in a roll of it with every G-fit?

It's fine to glue things to the sections.  The only point to note is that they won't necessarily slide back up inside themselves.  Superglue works really well on these carbon fibre sections.  Interesting point about PTFE tape.  I never find it a problem myself but then whenever I pull the No:1 section out of the gooseneck connector, I always twist it in a clockwise direction which has the effect of constantly tightening that joint.  If it's a bit stiff sometimes after a lot of work, I put the gooseneck on the ground, gently put my foot on the aluminium gooseneck and then pull and twist the No: 1 section up and out.

[stevekennedy]

Alex, thanks for the tip about the gooseneck. I'll do the same, should keep it tight.

Hadn't thought about the straps stopping sections sliding together. Maybe I'll glue no 1 section midway, no 2 section near the top, no 5 section and no 6 sections. 3 & 4 I think have too tight a tolerance. A side benefit might be that, if you were to drop the pole then the velcro strap would cushion it a bit

Jeff, I am interested in your "magic knot". I have tried to register on the DIY forum but i never get a reply.

[matt]

Jeff, I am interested in your "magic knot". I have tried to register on the DIY forum but i never get a reply.

steve, your account is active, what problems are you having, i can reset your password if you dont have it

[stevekennedy]

I'll try logging on now 

[stevekennedy]

Cheers Matt, I'm now in 

[matt]

Cheers Matt, I'm now in 

no probs

[Jeff Brimble]

Just hold the flexible hose between thumb and finger with your thumb underneath and the rotate your thumb away from your body to create a loop and push onto the base of the modular.
Alas still wont post immage shack pics here so will put it on Matts site later Steve. Give us some time, bit busy.