[ianharper]

most back pain comes from poor method and use of equipment. I know from experience. if you let the science do its work then you do less.

respect

Ian Harper

[carpet guy]

Spot on Ian, but taken to it's logical conclusion, that would mean using one of the dry systems, would be the healthiest option, but how many would go down that route.

From a health point of view, I see nothing wrong with it and excellent results are achievable for anyone who really applies themself.

I've seen a number of posts suggesting it's less stressful on the back using a t/m but with a constant downward pull and body torque from hoses, I'm not so sure

[liahona]

Rob,  is a dry system movement on the body less harmful to the body?  I have no idea which is why I am asking.

If a truckmount had a pull effect on the body then maybe I would understand a bit more.  But it is more of a push movement that is the aggresive part.

I use side to side motion when I clean Orientals and that is far more damaging to my back.  I would have thought the same with the dry systems that aquire the same type of movement.

A truckmount is certainly less effort or damaging effort than a portable but again wondered medically about dry verses a truckmount.

Best, Dave.

[carpet guy]

The use of any machine, or device, which involves lifting, pulling, pushing, will affect spinal stability, as stability  the spine / pelvis is dependent on Balance, that is, muscles in balance.

All physical work, which entails extended use of specific muscle groups requires a balancing action, otherwise body balance / alignment is comromised.

Bear in mind, I'm NOT suggesting that any particular system is the equal to, or superior to another, just saying that different people will achieve hugely differing results from the same machines and some people will get perfectly acceptable, in some cares exceptional results, from, lighter, less expensive, easier to use devices.

As most L/M systems tend to glide, with little effort, the will be less demanding than the downward force of hoses.

In terms of how little this affects the individual, it's a lottery.

[Mike Halliday]

have you though that our work might be beneficial to our backs, like they say use it or lose it all the bending & stretching will keep everything moving,  better than been sat at a desk all day

Mike