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burky-boy

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Putting grit down
« on: December 17, 2007, 10:09:20 pm »
How many people carry grit round this time of year .
Over the last few years when it starts to get icey i spend £2 on a bag of grit and sprinkle in busy areas ie doorways , ,steps , entrance ways, to many people after that no win no fee pay out  ;)

Steve
Keep The Faith

Tim Rose

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 10:11:20 pm »
Use hot water - that evaporates and is a non-slip-hazard from then on in.

or don't work when its feezing.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2007, 10:12:31 pm »
That old can of worms... :-\

I don't agree with it.
It's too skiddy in it's own right.

They gritted the platforms at the station the other day and it was dodgy to say the least.  :o

A far better idea is an alcohol based spray to melt it.

That's all I'm going to say on the subject.

burky-boy

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2007, 10:19:21 pm »
Use hot water - that evaporates and is a non-slip-hazard from then on in.

or don't work when its feezing.

Having my hot water heater fit this wkd so maybe i will not have the frezzzzzing problem Or does it still frezzzze
Keep The Faith

alanwilson

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 10:29:59 pm »
I got some sort of alcohol salt stuff from my supplier, brilliant stuff, doesn't leave any residue, a small handfull will go round a whole semi and even melts the ice on the ground.

was expensive though - £120 a bag but like I say it has lasted me all of last winter and this last week plus only used half of the bag at most.

a small price to pay for peace of mind.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

davids3511

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 10:55:37 pm »
I got some sort of alcohol salt stuff from my supplier, brilliant stuff, doesn't leave any residue, a small handfull will go round a whole semi and even melts the ice on the ground.

was expensive though - £120 a bag but like I say it has lasted me all of last winter and this last week plus only used half of the bag at most.

a small price to pay for peace of mind.

Any idea of the name of the stuff you are using? I tried googling for 'alcohol salt' but not having much luck, or better yet, who is your supplier?

Thanks

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 11:03:19 pm »
he's not supplying the salt anymore, I'll have to look on the bag but I'm kinda wrapped up and cosy now so I'll do it tomorrow.

Its something like Grants or Grantz.

You can buy get ordinary road salt quite cheap as well, google that.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

alanwilson

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I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Tim Rose

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 11:23:56 pm »
I got some sort of alcohol salt stuff from my supplier, brilliant stuff, doesn't leave any residue, a small handfull will go round a whole semi and even melts the ice on the ground.

was expensive though - £120 a bag but like I say it has lasted me all of last winter and this last week plus only used half of the bag at most.

a small price to pay for peace of mind.

Any idea of the name of the stuff you are using? I tried googling for 'alcohol salt' but not having much luck, or better yet, who is your supplier?

Thanks
Don't google anything.  Try Scroogle:
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

Ian_Giles

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 06:20:07 am »
So far I've not had to use any, and I'm out for work most morning before 6.45am, I'm hoping I won't have to use it too often :-\
But I use road grit, I don't bother paying for the stuff, I just go along to a roadside bin and shovel up a bucketful or two and store it in the back of the van.

It is also really important that you only use a little too!!! And put it down BEFORE you start spraying water about!

I have personally never found it slippery either, might be on something like a marble type surface but in general the chances of slipping as a result of grit on the pavement or patio is really very remote indeed.

Is it messy?

Well yes, it will be if you chuck a bucketful down!! ::) You only need a very, very light sprinkling, and only then in area's that might get walked on.

If like me you do a lot of work on shops and offices then freezing water is more of a worry.

Can't see what difference using hot water will make, you might be able to clean windows in colder weather, but by the time it has ran off the windows and reached the ground it is going to be cold and will freeze, certainly won't have chance to evaporate before it does so!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

johnny_h

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 07:20:09 am »
i use a thing called "ice melt" from a garden centre put it down after i finish the water wont freeze plus ok ok for plant life and animals too and if the custy walks it into the house it wont damage carpets either
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stevekennedy

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 04:30:44 pm »
Use hot water - that evaporates and is a non-slip-hazard from then on in.

or don't work when its feezing.

Having my hot water heater fit this wkd so maybe i will not have the frezzzzzing problem Or does it still frezzzze

It still freezes!

Squeeky makes a fair point. Best to check with your clients if they want the grit or not first. I would get them to sign off on it though as, despite your "gentleman's agreement", they will definitely sue you if they slip  >:(

We use the pure white rock salt on rather than grit as customers may not want to track dirt in especially on domestic. However, most commercials are very impressed by our proactive approach regarding H&S.

(P.S. Did you notice the use of the phrase "proactive approach". They love all that stuff!  ;D Definitely use that phrase as much as possible LOL)

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 04:51:47 pm »
I have been using table salt  ::) seems to work fine

stevekennedy

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2007, 04:54:20 pm »
Have used that before as well when stuck. Has the advantage of just disappearing so that customers won't complain about tracking stuff in.

Did you find it works out expensive though?

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 05:00:57 pm »
Have used that before as well when stuck. Has the advantage of just disappearing so that customers won't complain about tracking stuff in.

Did you find it works out expensive though?
not at all, but I think somerfield were a little miffed as I cleared them out  ;D only about 30p a bag if not cheaper. and would easy last a day, I have used about 3 bags so far in 2 months, and most of that was by my van when testing at night so I dont go ass over t== in the morning.

stevekennedy

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2007, 06:01:04 pm »
Have used that before as well when stuck. Has the advantage of just disappearing so that customers won't complain about tracking stuff in.

Did you find it works out expensive though?
not at all, but I think somerfield were a little miffed as I cleared them out ;D

They probably ordered a palletload thinking there must be a run on salt  ;D

Wayne Thomas

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2007, 07:57:16 pm »
I use 'Ice Clear' granules (6 times more effective than salt).

I bought it in the summer from a garden centre when they were virtually giving it away. I've got enough to last me for years :)

Elginn

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Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2007, 10:00:43 pm »
I use Table salt as well, but I put it into a flour shaker so last so much longer and spreads evenly, Dissolves well so custy's are always pleased.

burky-boy

  • Posts: 140
Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2007, 10:09:21 pm »
Use hot water - that evaporates and is a non-slip-hazard from then on in.

or don't work when its feezing.

Having my hot water heater fit this wkd so maybe i will not have the frezzzzzing problem Or does it still frezzzze

It still freezes!

Squeeky makes a fair point. Best to check with your clients if they want the grit or not first. I would get them to sign off on it though as, despite your "gentleman's agreement", they will definitely sue you if they slip  >:(

We use the pure white rock salt on rather than grit as customers may not want to track dirt in especially on domestic. However, most commercials are very impressed by our proactive approach regarding H&S.

(P.S. Did you notice the use of the phrase "proactive approach". They love all that stuff!  ;D Definitely use that phrase as much as possible LOL)

Them big words do sure impress most clients. I bet most of the method statements and risk assesments we do dont even get read Prob just get signed as received then sent back or filed. Will try pure white rock salt  cause the grit does make a mess but so far its done the trick  :)
Steve
Keep The Faith

Re: Putting grit down
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2007, 07:39:21 am »
I use Table salt as well, but I put it into a flour shaker so last so much longer and spreads evenly, Dissolves well so custy's are always pleased.
a flour shaker is a good idea, only thing is dont it get blocked up when left in the van?