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Ian Gourlay

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 06:23:48 am »
I would have qouted £750

Ken Wainwright

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2004, 01:03:09 pm »
I sometimes find these pricing issues to be comical. OK, I'm coming from a position of not needing to chase work, so I'm feeling secure. So here's my view on this scenario.

As an individual businessman, you know the standards you work to. You know how much effort, investment, technology and knowledge it has taken you to achieve this position. You have put a value on your services. You are now putting yourself in a position whereby you may be prepared to lower the value of your service in order to make a sale (ie you want to achieve the largest return possible, but are prepared to lower your price to obtain the work). 

For me, with my set up, this type of work is very demanding. Soiling levels are higher than normal. Gum is a time consuming issue. The hours worked are usually unsociable. Extra labour and costs are frequently required to complete the work within the timeframe. You will frequently be spending the following day in bed. So, with all these extra demands, I would be tempted to charge a premium rather than discount. I would sell firstly on quality. That's imperative. Also quote a lower price for following up with a planned maintenance program. With your initial clean, you may need to move downwards a little on price, but not too much. For everthing you give, you want something in return. For example, you could work the unsociable hours without charging a premium. Ditto the extra labour costs for completion within a limited time frame. You may offer X% discount for payment in 7 days or upon completion. Maybe a little too if the floor is cleared of all furnishings etc. But to offer a lower price in order to win on price is, for me, a no no. That is not the way to build a sustainable business or attract the type of customers I want.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

*paul_moss

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2004, 06:26:07 pm »
Ken
SPOT ON COMMENT.
Paul
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woodman

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2004, 05:54:24 pm »
doesn't answer the question though Ken

What would your price have been.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2004, 06:09:51 pm »
To be honest Trevor, I'm not interested in this type of work. I'd politely decline for myself but would sub it out to one of my T/M colleagues. My charge would be £1500 for restoration and after completion and having seen the results about £600 to £750 at probably six months to maintain the standard if suitable for Dry Fusion.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

mark_roberts

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2004, 06:54:10 pm »
Ken

My opinion is that your attitude to pricing is correct in theory but you mapped out your business idea in your first paragraph ie. in business a long time, no advertising, no need for growth, low overheads, no need to aquire new business.

On the other hand theres people like me who are only in business 3 years, need to advertise, want to grow year on year by a good margin, growing overheads and need new business.  So my opinion is to price to get the job and make money.  I dont need £70 per hour to make money more like £40 (9-5pm).  If things are quiet then I may lower this figure and the job is still profitable, probably more so as theres no travelling time, set-up time etc as there would be with 4 residential jobs.

The problem with pricing is the people who charge £40 for a suite and take 2.5 hours at it and do a good job.  No sales tactic we use can ever overcome this.

Mark

Len Gribble

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Re: price me this up
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2004, 08:00:40 pm »
Shaun

Let me know the name of the restaurant I will male sure I won’t eat their medium soil I will put up with but 200 bit of gum wonder what are the kitchens like. ???

Len
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