[Davew]

Whats the big deal with using a blade? It doesn't take a year to learn - a couple of hours maybe but it's hardly an apprentiship.  :

[L.J.Thorpe]

dave w i learned how to use a blade in about 20 mins but it takes longer to learn how to use it fast and properly the more you use it the better you get and its easy to lose your touch when you move to wfp unless you keep your hand in

[SonOfFormby]

My advice is do what you can to leave that place Simon, I left RM just over 3 months ago. Luckily we had some savings and spent them all on buying a van, water system and a w/c round, and I can honestly it was the best decision I ever made. I had never done w/c before but just took the plunge when things got so bad, I just had to get out. There is alot of good advice from w/c's on this site (god knows I hammered it leading up to leaving RM, and dont know what I would have done without it), so keep asking questions and hopefully you'll find an escape route

Good Luck

Lee

[L.J.Thorpe]

I second son of even if you have to borrow money to get started go for it you will be fine just have faith nothing is better than being your own boss

[Davew]

LJ were you a printer?

[L.J.Thorpe]

dave w yes why

[Davew]

Stands out a mile.

[L.J.Thorpe]

meaning what exactly

[Davew]

Nothing, i saw it somewhere else. I was a printer all my life till this year. Couldn't stick any more shiftwork, sick of the constant pay cuts and unbelievable greed and selfishness of the *ricks at the top.

[L.J.Thorpe]

posted a new one maybe you not see  were you running presses if so what  nice to hear from an ink devil unless you winding me up but reference to shifts pay and pric**s makes me think you gen

[Davew]

Yer, KBA 156A four colour perfectors, KBA five,six and eight units. All large format. Rolands before that. Heidelbergs before them going right back to letterpress days.

[L.J.Thorpe]

ok hope we on same thread me tok gto gtoz movp(no2) kord komori 225b gtovp ryobi524 lithrone 5 col then days on gto 52 print is poop and full of dicks what say you i have no regrets but still think it takes a good year to really get good on blade 

[windowwashers]

Whats the big deal with using a blade? It doesn't take a year to learn - a couple of hours maybe but it's hardly an apprentiship.  :

dave that quote is so so so wrong, this is why I get so much work, yes you can use a blade in 2 hours but can you get the quality? I think not.

There are window cleaners and then there are good window cleaners. the latter do well the other get fed up of complaints or the rain or the cold or all and stop. Giving us good window cleaners a bad name. 

It is not as easy as people seem to belive, running a business or any form is not easy, if it was every one would be doing it.

sry if that seemed i was havin a pop i wasnt just adding my thoughts on it 

[Davew]

  worked on webs too. I spent a lifetime of mega amounts of overtime and treble shifts then got cancer and suddenly woke up. Started to realise i was missing out on normal family life - little things like taking my young daughter to school. The firm got into trouble so they cut the workers money, took three million out of the pension fund whilst two directors were pulling 300k each out of the company in wages plus the other seven directors beneath them. Treble shifts are the pits - permanently mentally drained. Then there was the boredom...............

[windowwashers]

worked on webs too. I spent a lifetime of mega amounts of overtime and treble shifts then got cancer and suddenly woke up. Started to realise i was missing out on normal family life - little things like taking my young daughter to school. The firm got into trouble so they cut the workers money, took three million out of the pension fund whilst two directors were pulling 300k each out of the company in wages plus the other seven directors beneath them. Treble shifts are the pits - permanently mentally drained. Then there was the boredom...............

Dave I have had cancer quite a few times once it nearly got me, but what does that have to do with window cleaning. ??
it is not easy IMO running a business is another story that people forget about.

[L.J.Thorpe]

see dave even the big boys agree with me by way window washers all you need are female schraders and crimps i think saw your pics think its easy and they are not dear 10 mins and all done ithink but might have got name wrong   :)windowwash think dave is talking to me if i could work chat could talk to both of you but there you go printing sucks windows rule both happy now???

[L.J.Thorpe]

any way dave and winwash iam to drunk to sit up and type now if i get chat working then great meantime i have about 3 email addresses and cant work any of them would like to have a proper conversation with both of you if poss but will have to wait until i get my head round all this tech sorry to simonhammer for hijacking thread  ;Dcatch up in week

[windowwashers]

any way dave and winwash iam to drunk to sit up and type now if i get chat working then great meantime i have about 3 email addresses and cant work any of them would like to have a proper conversation with both of you if poss but will have to wait until i get my head round all this tech sorry to simonhammer for hijacking thread  ;Dcatch up in week

01234 870 225 if you want to chat with me m8 

[Davew]

I'm happy   i was explaining how i left my last job. In reply to Ian blading is hardly difficult, sure you'll get faster as time goes by but it's not exactly highly skilled. I had to serve five years apprenticeship for my last job then two more years training for a new process after that so thats seven years of crap money. If you have a decent customer base you can be on good money from day one in this job. Same for wfp - couple of houses to practice and away you go - no training, no exams NOTHING.
Becoming a successful business man , well thats another story.

[windowwashers]

I'm happy   i was explaining how i left my last job. In reply to Ian blading is hardly difficult, sure you'll get faster as time goes by but it's not exactly highly skilled. I had to serve five years apprenticeship for my last job then two more years training for a new process after that so thats seven years of crap money. If you have a decent customer base you can be on good money from day one in this job. Same for wfp - couple of houses to practice and away you go - no training, no exams NOTHING.
Becoming a successful business man , well thats another story.

As long as your happy m8 thats all that matters, I liked the part about the business man......so so many will learn the hard way