[Ian Rochester]

I know this is very much personal choice, but I was just wondering what everyones preferences were for hand tools.

I have always used the extracta 3 1/2 inch hide a hose and have really liked it, just been trying out a standard stlye detailer hand tool and found it quite awkward and clumbersome in comparison.

Does anyone use any of the following and how do they find them.

CFR
Drimaster
Kleenrite

Alternatively can the extracta tool be modified to cope with a higher pressure?

[stevegunn]

Ian you can borrow my cfr tool to see how you find it can drop it off at Jk's then you can try the drimaster once you finished with the cfr.

Personally cfr better but drimaster better suited to prowler.

[Mike Halliday]

without a doubt the CFR is the best tool going, with the suction of a T/M (even on low revs) alot of tools grip the fabric too hard.

I use mine with a 1.5inchX20ft hide-a-hose, so the 2inch hose and solution line finish at the front door and the hide-a-hose is in the house.

my CFr was broke last week and had to clean a suite with my collection of other tools, I felt like stopping and re-booking the job when my CFR was fixed.

Luckily I realised that the CFR uses a standard PMF valve so I stripped out the plunger off one of my other tools and fixed my  cfr.

Mike

[*paul_moss]

For a truckmount CFR
For Portable Kleenrite swivel head.

[Buster Ingram]

Why not the CFR for both Paul??

[*paul_moss]

Truckmount too powerfull for it even down at 100 psi you still get lots of splash back, but not on a portable at 100psi 

[Buster Ingram]

Sorry paul what I ment to say was why the CFR for both porty and tuck ??

[*paul_moss]

I find the CFR  needs more suction and the result not as good using it on the porty( I know it is designed for a porty) but strangly enough it seems to work better with the truck.

[Ian Rochester]

Steve,

I'd love to take you up on your offer, I'll give you a call tomorrow.

Cheers

Ian

[mark_roberts]

Mike

Do you not find on the Tm that 20ft of 1.5inch hide a hose restricts vac power even for upholstery.

Mark

[John Kelly]

I run a 20' whip on a Prowler, probably get more suck using 2" and short whip but suction and airflow is still excellent.

[Mike Halliday]

Mark, Like Paul I might lose some suction with the 20ft whip hide-a-hose but  considering the suction is applied over a 3inches tool it is still more powerful the full vacuum used with a 12inch wand.

and I run half revs, if I needed more vac power I could turn up the engine.

Mike

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

I know this is very much personal choice, but I was just wondering what everyones preferences were for hand tools.

I have always used the extracta 3 1/2 inch hide a hose and have really liked it, just been trying out a standard stlye detailer hand tool and found it quite awkward and clumbersome in comparison.

Does anyone use any of the following and how do they find them.

CFR
Drimaster
Kleenrite

Alternatively can the extracta tool be modified to cope with a higher pressure?

im the same as you i loved the small extracta tool and i now have a dri master tool , but i am not getting away with it so im going to try the cfr and if that no good im going to by a new extracta tool pull it to bits and get the cuts changed so it will take the power of the t.m

wheres the best place to get a cff tool ??

[Ian Rochester]

If you manage to modify it let me know, I'm half tempted to ring Brian at extracta and ask him if they could do it. 

Is it just the hose that can't stand the pressure/temp or is it the trigger assy as well?

[mark_roberts]

Having cleaned two suites today with the CFR tool I find a cramp like feeling in my right hand fingers.

Im putting this down to the design and esp the trigger resistance of the CFR tool.

Has anyone modified a CFR tool to make it more user friendly.

thanks
Mark

[*paul_moss]

Mark I had the same thing, I cut the metal trigger down by about an inch which makes it easier to use, but even so its still a pain to get used to. Im o with it now but it too several months to combat the aches from using it. Its a great tool but not very user friendly.
The best tool and easiest to use out the lot is the Klenrite swivelhead.

[Chris R]

If you manage to modify it let me know, I'm half tempted to ring Brian at extracta and ask him if they could do it. 

Is it just the hose that can't stand the pressure/temp or is it the trigger assy as well?

its the trigger valve and hose that can only take up to 150 psi.

Extracta will not do the conversion. Which is a shame because i am sure they would sell a lot if they would. Best stair tool by a mile, but no good with a T/M 

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

If you manage to modify it let me know, I'm half tempted to ring Brian at extracta and ask him if they could do it. 

Is it just the hose that can't stand the pressure/temp or is it the trigger assy as well?

its the trigger valve and hose that can only take up to 150 psi.

Extracta will not do the conversion. Which is a shame because i am sure they would sell a lot if they would. Best stair tool by a mile, but no good with a T/M 

its ashame extracta wont help themselfs im going to send mine to h.m. im sure they will sort it for me , but you can do it yourself , but im not sure where to get the bits , there will be some one that will on here maybe john kelly or the guys from express cleaning may help

[Ian Rochester]

Steve's going to loan me his CFR to try out, I've just realised I've got 9 suites to do between this morning and next wednesday morning!!

Choosing the wrong hand tool can be an expensive mistake to make, all the decent ones are banging around the £250-£300 mark which is a lot to pay out if it's not going to give you what you want from it.

[PaulKing]

If you manage to modify it let me know, I'm half tempted to ring Brian at extracta and ask him if they could do it. 

Is it just the hose that can't stand the pressure/temp or is it the trigger assy as well?

valve jam up at over 150 psi on those tools as had one that i like and had the soloution hose replaced and swaged and that found out hat the valve can't take it, I'll have a look and see if there is a spare PMF bypass in the unit for you tomorrow