[simbo]

hello again , after reading a lot of past posts it seems to me ,that micro splitters are the way to go .Am i right to think that they could save a lot of money as they can be used on carpet and upholstery as well .

 I would like to give these a try on the various old carpet pieces that a carpet fitter mate has given me. adjitating is the key from what i read and also correct dilution, will it work on all kinds of carpets as i now seem to have a better understanding of machines , i now feel i need more info as to what chems would i use on a range of things.

I am almost sure that you must have a solution that you allways use for carpets, same applies to furniture and just a few things such as red rx for most common stains , otherwise you would need a second van just to transport them all.

This is just my beginners view and prob way off mark but felt the need to ask


ps: can anyone give me address 's suppliers micro splitters and chems alike  many thanks simbo

[stevegunn]

Give Nick a ring at Solution 01726852880

http://www.solution-uk.com/

[Len Gribble]

Simbo

I think you will be surprised at the cleaning ability of M/S and the cost savings, in the past I used two products to clean soft furnishing now it one.

As you have said agitations is the key, but that also applied to the other pre-spray cleaning agents out there!

Len

[HolmansUKLTD]

I am almost sure that you must have a solution that you allways use for carpets, same applies to furniture and just a few things such as red rx for most common stains.

Be carefull with Red RX simbo its NOT for most common stains you could come unstuck

Nick

[paul@ctcs]

I agree! get hold of some number 3 and eco spotter, there are very few stains you wont shift with these 2 products at hand

Paul

[Dynafoam]

Paul,

They are both excelent products effective against a wide range of spots - but if I did not have an early start in the morning I would list some of the many stains they will not touch.

[simbo]

paul

what is number 3 what is it used for and where from, and is crystal green good stuff as a mate uses all the time not sure how good he is though?

[paul@ctcs]

Simbo, Both number3 and eco spotter are available from solutions Nick. Crystal green made by prochem is an extraction detergent, I did once use it when i was starting out and if i recall it worked well but the nature of this type of cleaning may well leave a residue.
This was before i used micro splitters which due to there minimal residue i now prefer.

Paul

[*paul_moss]

John
What stains wont they touch and what other reconmendations would you give.

Paul

[simbo]

thanks paul

so it's really m/s all the way for you then. Does this also reduce the risk element of cleaning different types of carpets and upholstery.

Any tips for getting really good results as will try on old carpet samples first especially as i will only be using carpet brush to start with for adjitating "cost again"

[Len Gribble]

Simbo

No 4 is woolsafe approved.

Don’t blame you on the costing side you need to check out the product first, but you will soon buy a sebo duo when doing customers homes.

Len

[Dave_Lee]

Simbo,
I have done trials with micro splitters for last year after solely using rinse detergents for the 24 years before that.
I have now settled on a system that works well for me using both. I use a TM.
I prespray with microsplitter and agitate the traffiic lane areas, I rinse off the edges and lightly soiled areas with plain water. I then do a trial rinse with just water on the worst area of soiling and if this works to my satisfaction, I continue rinsing with just water. If the result of the test area are not up to my standard as often happens, I switch my rinse agent to a diluted detergent, this always does the trick. I only go straight away with detergent these days on heavily soiled manmades especially polyprops, not that Im saying Microsplitters wont do these jobs, its just my personal preference. I have stated it many times before and I will state it again - I have never experienced rapid resoiling problems or premature wear on the likes of wool carpets over the time I have used detergents, and many of the carpets I have cleaned with detergents I have recleaned many times with an average repeat gap of two and a half years.
Dave.

[simbo]

dave, do they work on all types of carpets? what sort of detergant do you use if not satisfied, i understand that sebo,s are not that expensive so would get one pretty quick.

I am allowing myself untill jan to learn as much as i can before taking coarse and then registering not going full time for a while at least. M/s sound the biz as far as cost affective will give some practice for a while.

p.s would you still use things to ad a nice smell?

[Dynafoam]

John
What stains wont they touch and what other reconmendations would you give.

Paul

Paul,

The list of stains that will not respond would be too numerouse to mention here, but I would say that if I were to carry no mere than two spotters, these two would be strong contenders.

This, however would not alow me to offer anything near a complete servict to my customers - today for example I have used 8 different spotting agents , some days it can be many more.

[Mike Halliday]

I'm starting to have the same opinion as Dave, to just fresh water rinse all carpets some times just does'nt do it.

I had a problem with a 'smelly carpet' 2 weeks ago which I've now decide was due to over-wetting because i used a fresh water rinse, the traffic lanes needed 3-4 attempts to get clean. If I'd used a detergent this would'nt have happened.

most modern detergents don't have a resoiling problem when used in the correct dilution.

Mike

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

I too am not that confident of microsplitters  on carpets  , that I use a detrgent back up (dilute)if I think the results are not good enough.

I think Mike's point about over wetting is important and dare I say it time is also a factor.Afterall as Dave says many of us have used detergents over the years with excellent results.

Interesting topic , I am still learning!

Cheers,

Doug

[simbo]

hello again,
 seem to have hit on a good topic here, this leads me to another question, what detergant would you recomend for most general use, best dilution etc,etc

just thought i'd ask

thanks simbo

[Ian Rochester]

Thought I'd have to get a better feel for these "microsplitters" so just ordered some "One Step" to try with my Extracta Exel.

Always generaly been using Superchem from extracta with very good results on most carpets, though did have a poor result last week on a particularly bad track from a restaurant kitchen into the dining area, very heavy inground grease etc.

Any advice on how best to use one step or any other microsplitters would be appreciated.

[paul@ctcs]

Lion heart,

This is very basically how i get great results with microsplitters( in my case solutions 2 & 4 )

1, Pre Vac, i use a twin motor nilfisk upright

2, Sparingly apply pre spray, at a ratio of 12-1 up too 20-1( i use hot water)over application can wash surface soiling to plie base.

3, aggitate north to south then east to west using sebo duo or similar(rotary on some commercial)

4,Fresh water extract at 60 degrees

5, Set pile

I have found microsplitters work very well with charlie pads, this technique is fantastic for commercial maintenance work, i clean a local snooker and bowling club every two months with charlie pads, this carpet gets really abused but comes up a treat with minimal fuss and dry in no time.

Paul

[Paul Redden Countryfresh]

Hi Paul, what are solutions 3
& 4?
and what are charlie pads?

thanks Paul