[jikwan]

ive had to turn down a few lucrative jobs because the brush, applicator
and scrim get contaminated
i know w cleaners avod these like the plauge,but someone must have developed a technique......

[Pure H20 Cleaning Services]

They are a nightmare to clean i'm mainly wfp and can't use it on them, just bought a round of a w/c and i have had to go back to trad on 2 houses untill my mate takes them on for me,

[Jeff Brimble]

Some of the old pvc frames also oxidise. Someone posted that they all have a 15 year memory and then start to degrade.

[jikwan]

so i stand there........got my brush in my hand,gallons of the purest water in england--no way wfp

[Jeff Brimble]

Turn the flow down and with a splayable brush go right to the edge of the frame(but dont do the frame). You may have to go back and re do the glass within say 2" of the edge. This helps remove most of the white oxidised paint bleed. Tell the custy youve done your best. Move on if its not good enough.

[Davew]

What if you were to wash them twice? Scrub the frames really well (see the water pouring down with pigment) then go back and do the glass without scrubbing the frames.

[jikwan]

pricing up ahouse...........sure! just fifteen pound
halfway through the job...i review the work i done
man, i want to die
theres no way i can allieviate the damage
2 ways out: look i spent 40 mins on the job=theyre infinately cleaner
what about £3 50?
throw yer stuff in the van as fast as y can and run

[Davew]

 

[Jeff Brimble]

Jikwan, you did your homework and knew oxidising frames could be a problem. They can be done but not to your standards-  so dont. Move on....Or compromise !

[jikwan]

allright jeff
good points
i already went one better than your suggestion
i splayed the brush but tipped it 30 degrees up. and to quater of an inch
of the frame and not too much water   very slow+ carefull
could even say "jikwan and michaelangelo" in the same breath
even though, allways feel bad and full of doubt

just had a very crazy idea about how to solve all powdered
ally frames problems

and it takes just a very few minutes....

[Jeff Brimble]

go on then ?

[Jeff Brimble]

Cmon ! I am into crazy ?

[jikwan]

ok im just gonna do it
slightly unconventioal though

[Jeff Brimble]

AC/DC got to go my hot choccys ready.

[jikwan]

there must be solutions that can be painted onto oxidising
plastic     stick-to-anything-kind-of- transparent-semi-acrillicwhatever
for sale somewhere

tell the lady: i can do the job- i have a technique thats my own
others could not get the same results as me

get up the ladder and roughly-95%+ paint half of the rubber to glass
and1inch of frame all around

a semi detatched-how long to do?
maybe 10-15 min

let it dry   get on with buisness

[jikwan]

were talking a mere 15 mins xtra work  small xtra cost
gottyourself anextra customer
hell........why not monopolize the whole powdercoated frames in your area
even in great britain............the whole world
youll make a killing

just got to get over that  "huh, it aint convenient" feeling  and
find the right solution  thats super adhesive,transparent and fairly
long lasting

[jikwan]

first of all, i demand a nobell prize for this
and secondly, all descending frames have to be painted fully
stop the white runs

[Londoner]

There are a few things I have learned the hard way.

(1) The brush causes the milking not the water so the secret is in the rinsing. Rinse    twice if necessary.

(2) Although it never goes completely it does reduce dramatically after the first clean

(3) With practice you can wash a window perfectly without touching the frame at all. Try it.

(4) Tell the customer about it and get them on your side. Explain its only temporary.

(5) The real danger is the window with slight milking. Not enough for you to see but enough to leave spots.

(6) I believe milking was the reason for saying that first cleans were never 100%. That was the popular belief when I started although you don't hear it said so much now.