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P®oPole™

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How much would you charge?
« on: October 30, 2007, 08:20:38 pm »
What would you charge for these roof/walk-way cover. It needs a cherry picker and is a one off.
I told them it will be pricey ;) and Im not to fussed about getting this one or not

Pic One South roof,
Price for outside, Price for both inside and out?

Pic two North roof,
Price for outside, Price for both inside and out?


Thanks
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P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 08:23:27 pm »
How bad they are :o (North roof)

martindrz400

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 08:51:29 pm »
if its the one in hoddesdon it got to be £3000 -£4000 easy hope this helps

NWH

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 08:55:36 pm »
I couldn`t give you a price without seeing it in the flesh,the insides would be a neck breaker and there never ending by the looks of it.Inside and out of that would be mega money.

trevor perry

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2007, 10:03:42 am »
outside could be done from of the roof using wfp easy just like brushing a floor insides not a problem either a small scissor lift and done traditional the odd one you will need an extension pole where scissor lift cant get to. It will cost you about £220 for the scissor lift and a very easy day for 2 men so i would say about £600 and round here someone would still do it cheaper.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2007, 04:41:26 pm »

Martin,

I was thinking somewere in the middle of what you said. Got to cover yourself for the unforseen, haven't you!

Good to see you the other day

Regards
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P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2007, 04:41:53 pm »
Trevor,

The job cant be wfp'd because the box gutters get in the way, the glass is so bad and they dont want hose's and water near the shoppers.

I wouldnt even consider the job at that price. I wont get on a cherry picker for under four figures, its not worth the hassle and worry.

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trevor perry

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2007, 04:54:29 pm »
propole you wont get on a cherrypicker for under four figures then i am surprised you have ever used one because no one round my way would pay four figures for an operator, the job could be done early morning to avoid shoppers and areas coned off and looking at pictures i still think it could be wfp but spray with tfr first , may be you should not bother going for the job and leave it to someone who thinks they can manage it but it may be worth just keeping an eye out for who does the job and see how they do it and time taken etc you might learn something.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2007, 04:59:52 pm »
You dont know what your talking about trevor, things are done differntly down here!

Get the job or not I dont care! I dont give a monkeys for a one off hassle job, I already have a very nice and extensive portfolio that most would envy so get down of your high horse, pick your toys back up and get in the real world. We all have bad days but this is a w/c forum not a playground, alright!!

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trevor perry

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2007, 05:17:37 pm »
not getting in an argument with you propole but i could easily manage that job and do many similar i was trying to give you advice on how i would tackle it but as you already know it all i will bow to your better judgement ps have you a laddetr i can borrow to climb off my high horse as sliding down a pole is dangerous ;D
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Moderator David@stives

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2007, 05:28:24 pm »
50 p per running foot for the top
£1.00 per running foot underneath

Simple

Moderator David@stives

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2007, 05:32:05 pm »
Why cant it be done wfp out of hours, I do a lot of similar jobs and start them when the shops have just closed, or do them on a Sunday.


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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 06:08:26 pm »
Trevor,

The job cant be wfp'd because the box gutters get in the way, the glass is so bad and they dont want hose's and water near the shoppers.

I wouldnt even consider the job at that price. I wont get on a cherry picker for under four figures, its not worth the hassle and worry.

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Under four figures who the hell you using i can get cherry picker with operater for under £600 no problem
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P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2007, 07:54:03 am »
Rick,

I can get a picker for £150 + diesiel + VAT a day, I know a guy who owns a firm. 600 seems very steep :o

Was that you I met the other week, Pegasus House, Crossbrook Street.

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P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2007, 08:01:27 am »

A few things about this job, it has to be done in two stages south and north therefore two days picker hire.

The box gutters block access to the roof with wfp from the ground therefore it could only cleaned from about two foot from the bottom of each pane leaving horrible green stuff all the way along. Get the ladders out and stand in the box gutters you say, no ladders allowed.

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nat

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2007, 08:26:24 am »
a couple of things propole are these the box gutters that i've highlighted?

If so would a deep swan neck not reach over them at an angle giving you the height to get over them from the ground? they don't look that deep??

if not i would use a scaff tower or picker, a scaff tower if working at a consistent height as its a lot cheaper, and it wouldn't take 2 guys no longer than 8 hours work.

we done one similar but ours was more green than that, at least you can see a bit of daylight through them windows our ones you couldn't.

it would be a lot easier to get above them to clean, you can see what your doing properly and that you can make sure all the algae would be flushed away properly. the undersides will probably be no where near as bad. start at 5 in the morning on a sunday have that cracked out by 1, if to many shoppers about, 2 sundays 5am till 9am.

£600- £700 if one day, if two days incur the cost of the plant hire
thats how i would clean this

trevor perry

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2007, 09:24:58 am »
spot on nat and described well but i am sure propole will pick a fault with your method , if he is not confident he can do the job then i suggest he should leave it alone , this isnt a slur on his reputation or the work he already does but sometimes it is better to decline work rather than take it on and overprice giving yourself a bad reputation.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

nat

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2007, 10:32:32 am »
surely its about doing the job effectivly and safely? if you have no experience with this kind of work then there is no time like the present to learn is there? ;)

I don't know what anyone else would charge but when i first took on a job like this i didn't really know what to charge? but as you take on more and more difficult jobs you can see where you can price effectively in order to make a good mint but also get the job as well.

I don't think the above job looks very daunting at all, if the owners or management were telling me when and how to do the job and making it difficult i would simply point out the easiest, quickest and safest method. they will get a good job done at a resonable price and i'd be quids in!! ;D

P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 05:17:37 pm »

nat,

Yes mate they are the box gutters you pointed out, they are very very deep you would need a goose neck like an upside down v to get down the full length of the pane.

That price and estimated time scale would be about right with a straight foward wfp job

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P®oPole™

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Re: How much would you charge?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2007, 05:18:46 pm »
spot on nat and described well but i am sure propole will pick a fault with your method , if he is not confident he can do the job then i suggest he should leave it alone , this isnt a slur on his reputation or the work he already does but sometimes it is better to decline work rather than take it on and overprice giving yourself a bad reputation.

Trevor,

I'm affraid its your inexperience thats evident, you haven't even seen the job properly and somehow you will hire a scissor lift for "around £220" pay a mans wage and tax and still turn a profit with £600. I wouldnt want the hassle, might as well just do some domestics!

If it could be done with just a pole, early in the morning, one man, set cleaning frequency and no scissor lift then fair enought £600 is round about the money. However your way of the mark with those extra expenses.

Cant get on site till 8am, shoppers every were, work to be done over two days and its a One Hit Wonder

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