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Poll

How do you clean

Prespray & Water rinse
3.6%
2 (3.6%)
Prespray Agititae & Water Rinse
41.1%
23 (41.1%)
In Tank Detergent
3.6%
2 (3.6%)
Prespray & intank Detergent
10.7%
6 (10.7%)
Prespray, Agitate & Intank Detergent
41.1%
23 (41.1%)

Total Members Voted: 52

AquaMagic

  • Posts: 563
Method
« on: October 24, 2007, 05:05:31 pm »
Ive had loads of customers who have approached me while im prepping a carpet and say "the last guy had a machine like a big hoover" at which point i say "me too ill be extracting next".  I made me think, do other CC's prespray or do they just use an in-tank chemical, i personally use both, unless the carpets arent to bad in which case ill skip the formula 90.

So come on fella and lasses be honest which do you do?

I appreciate every job will differ so just select the "norm".

Dene

jasonl

  • Posts: 3183
Re: Method
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 05:19:14 pm »
RAKE
VAC
VAC
PRESPRAY
BONNET BUFF
BONNET BUFF
SPOT
BONNET BUFF
RAKE

SOME ITEMS APPEAR TWICE BECAUSE THEY ARE CARRIED OUT TWICE.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: Method
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 05:21:25 pm »
Jas
I thought you just had a stutter  :D
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

Mike Halliday

  • Posts: 11578
Re: Method
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 05:25:41 pm »
VAC...VAC

 how do you know when the 1st vaccing stops and the 2nd vaccing starts? same goes for the BUFF...BUFF?

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

maxcarpets

Re: Method
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 05:50:09 pm »
it could just be a vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac if you dont stop.

lands

Re: Method
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 06:34:35 pm »
You vac east to west the north to south tut tut, surprised at some of you boys

Mike Halliday

  • Posts: 11578
Re: Method
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 06:45:36 pm »
oh yea!... you carry a compass on every job ;D ;D

the best way is vac-scrub-vac-prespray-scrub-bonnet-spot-bonnet

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Daveyboy

  • Posts: 76
Re: Method
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 06:49:57 pm »
Just do what's necessary for YOUR standard of work!

lands

Re: Method
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2007, 06:56:34 pm »
oh yea!... you carry a compass on every job ;D ;D

the best way is vac-scrub-vac-prespray-scrub-bonnet-spot-bonnet

Mike

Mike

I agree with you up until you get to the first bonnet but I'm not gonna get into a bonnet/HWE debate coz I'm too knackered..
Pete

jasonl

  • Posts: 3183
Re: Method
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2007, 07:01:10 pm »
Well done Pete , second is done at 90 degrees to first.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Method
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2007, 08:00:06 pm »
I tend to do all of the things I can to make sure that everyone gets the same clean, if you don't get the right response you can't put it down to something you've missed out, irrelivant of what system/s you use.

Shaun


Mike Halliday

  • Posts: 11578
Re: Method
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2007, 08:31:17 pm »
once you start to understand the cleaning pie you can start manipulating it to your own advantage.

I might go into a house pre-pray the H/S/L & L/R then scrub the L/R and then extract it, leaving the H/S/L to have an extended dwell time so not requiring the agitation.

I knocked over my hyraforce once and spilt my pre-spray, by the time I'd noticed it and sucked it up with the wand I'd left a clean mark that was hard to clean the rest of the carpet to match it.

 this showed me that a pre-spray can have a desired effect without agitation, if you leave it long enough ( and it doesn't dry out)

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Method
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2007, 08:40:17 pm »
Dave Liohana swears by his 1 jet wand as it gives the desired wetness as the standard 4 jetted wands although spray evenly don't rinse aswell.

Shaun

lands

Re: Method
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2007, 08:50:17 pm »
Dave Liohana swears by his 1 jet wand as it gives the desired wetness as the standard 4 jetted wands although spray evenly don't rinse aswell.

Shaun

I've come to learn that the less jets the better for Dave's reason but also you don't need much obstruction in a 3 or 4 jet wand to make you passes look awful

carpet guy

Re: Method
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2007, 09:11:20 pm »
I was amazed some time ago when the effect of a spill, that went unnoticed for an hour, resulted in a beautifully clean area and it was only water in the bucket.

Reminds me of my early days, when I used to prespray fairly heavily with the carpet wand the full area to be cleaned, then start extracting after about 10 - 15 minutes dwell time.

Worked pretty well and only stopped when microsplitters appeared about ten years ago and the little Klanz made light work of aggitating a lightly misted prespray.

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Method
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 09:28:41 pm »
If you have a look around youtube you'll find that most US cleaners do really put presprays and HWE very heavily, I know they have loads of man made fibres to dry quickly but on some of the videos you'd think that they were going to drown but they do get very good results but I don't know about the drying but in the US they say dry in 1 hour even with HWE.

Shaun

will_turton

  • Posts: 217
Re: Method
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 09:36:07 pm »
 shaun i disagree, a four jet wand rinses better as you use more water, than a single or twin jets wand, and with that new wand of mine it rinses better and the drying out times are awesome

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Method
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 09:52:37 pm »
Dave uses a 06 jet but I must admit that wand of yours sounds very nice, have you got the 5 x 01 jets on it?

Tell me when you get your TM vac hose converted to 2.5 and how dry it leaves the carpet after.

Shaun

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: Method
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 09:57:31 pm »
Will
You have the Ti wand dont you?
How much are they now?
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

will_turton

  • Posts: 217
Re: Method
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 10:05:42 pm »
no paul got one of greenies greenhorn wand 12inch with four jets, the angles of the jets are so different, its angled towards the lips, i think its makes a big difference on drying out,

shaun am hoping to get the 2'5 vac port fitted 2mrrw to the waste tank, but the way this wand drys a carpet i dont think i need it,