[windowwashers]

Have to say so far 1 day I have just done wfp on everything and there are no spots as yet, you have to gain confidence in the system, this IMO is why others still use a blade with wfp because they either lack confidence in it or have dobts about there cleaning with it, please tell me if I am wrong

[Sir Squeaky]

You are wrong.

[Village Gleam]

WW things will happen when you are gone. Black rubber seals sometimes leach a stain down. Dirty wooden frames in enclosed spaces are hard to do without spots. If you touch the above vent dirt will come out. If you clean a double opener above another window it will steak down the middle. Some painted frames send the water chalky and contaminate the brush........

[Sir Squeaky]

The main problem is customers opening horizontal windows after you've gone.

You will get a line of spots down the middle below.
EVERY TIME!

[billygoat]

If you went inside and looked out windowwashers, I can guarantee you will find spots,you just can't see from outside.

It gets good after a few cleans but not always perfect .but acceptable

[john tomkins]

If you went inside and looked out windowwashers, I can guarantee you will find spots,you just can't see from outside.

It gets good after a few cleans but not always perfect .but acceptable

Very good answer.
You'll always get some good windows and some bad ones.
A lot is down to the operator, we all have different standards, one persons "I never get any spots" could be anothers " what a crap job he does"
If it keeps the customers happy and it earns you a few quid you're laughing

[windowwashers]

If you went inside and looked out windowwashers, I can guarantee you will find spots,you just can't see from outside.

It gets good after a few cleans but not always perfect .but acceptable

trust me when I say there are no spots I waited for every window to dry and looked from inside and out and there was no spots at all then again i did use quite alot of water doing them, not saying that i will not get spots as i know i will very soon.

[Ian_Giles]

The main problem is customers opening horizontal windows after you've gone.

You will get a line of spots down the middle below.
EVERY TIME!

now that one I will agree with! I could throttle customers who open windows the second you have finished cleaning them.
Open windows? Fine, not a problem! Just don't shut them and then open them afterwards!

But in reply to other posts: Oxidised frames? I have learned to get them right now, hardly ever get them wrong.
Vents? Well use your eyes and steer clear of them.
Oxidised br
Black rubber seals? Again, I have more problems with doing them trad than I do WFP.

But trad skill are vital, there are no end of occasions when you need them, insides, builders cleans, certain windows that are so ropey that the only way you can clean them is trad. And so on.
Plus if you go into window cleaning via WFP without trad experience, and you are not well clued up on running a business (as against window cleaning as a simple job) you will almost certainly get your price structure totally wrong...

Ian

[Davew]

Agree with your last line but disagree that you have to do trad. If it wasn't for the fact that insides are another form of income i wouldn't have bothered.

[windowwashers]

to be a window cleaner IMO you have to have the trad skills, you would look a bit silly if they asked you to clean say an inside door to there office only for you to say sry cant do that I dont know how (window cleaning started trad and people thinking they dont need to know it boggles me  :

[Davew]

Funny thing is that because i entered the trade the wrong way so to speak i actually think wfp is harder to pick up than trad. Mind you i tried using a squeegie on a pole and couldn't master that! It's just my own experience and i have a lot of respect for all of you who started trad and worked off ladders and if you saw my work you would probably laugh!

[windowwashers]

Funny thing is that because i entered the trade the wrong way so to speak i actually think wfp is harder to pick up than trad. Mind you i tried using a squeegie on a pole and couldn't master that! It's just my own experience and i have a lot of respect for all of you who started trad and worked off ladders and if you saw my work you would probably laugh!

Laugh no, help yes 

[Art]

Some good replies.

So i suppose as WFP is only something i'm thinking of adding to my current business. I could pick and choose what work would be suitable for WFP only.

At the moment as part of EOT and spring cleans we do internal windows with tescos glass cleaner so i don't suppose there's any harm in doing internals if asked the same way?

[mark dew]

Some good replies.

So i suppose as WFP is only something i'm thinking of adding to my current business. I could pick and choose what work would be suitable for WFP only.

At the moment as part of EOT and spring cleans we do internal windows with tescos glass cleaner so i don't suppose there's any harm in doing internals if asked the same way?

Art, even when you come across windows that aren't suitable for wfp, (ie spots and runs after they have dried) all you need to do is to wipe the offending areas with a damp cloth. Job done. It might be a bit difficult without getting ladders out if they are upstairs but another rinse of just the glass is usually enough. 
It's generally wooden windows in a poor state that are the biggest offenders in my opinion. Pvc windows are less of a problem.