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stevegunn

Nemesis as a spotter
« on: October 18, 2007, 08:15:10 pm »
I have been leaving bottles of spotter made up of nemesis with my customers.Went back to one today who said how good it was husband came in drunk spilt his curry all over carpet she used the whole bottle but it took the stain out  granted it was polyprop.So good she bought 5 bottles @ £9.99 plus her annual carpet clean

Well Happy

PaulKing

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2007, 09:47:33 pm »
Stand and deliver!!!!

£9.99 your such a bad boy
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

Robert Watson

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2007, 09:57:56 pm »
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask  :o
Nice one. 
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Bob Robertson

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2007, 10:02:40 pm »
Steve do you buy it made up with your own logo, or do it yourself?

Bob

Joe H

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 10:03:27 pm »
Thats cheap - 2 quid a bottle!

stevegunn

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2007, 06:59:06 am »
Make it up myself bottles from furniture clinic and labels from northumbria labels

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2007, 04:30:32 pm »
Nemesis  must be quite a bit different to M Power then.

M Power, once added to water, will remain active >3days. It will then degrade within 14 days so it virtually becomes water.  So my advice is don't copy Steve's exercise with M Power or there will be tears :'(
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

AquaMagic

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2007, 04:37:38 pm »
I must be getting good cos i was thinking the same.   :o

Dene

David_Annable

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2007, 04:38:04 pm »
Hi

Enter the seed of doubt.

Dave
NCCA, Woolsafe, IICRC Leather Cleaning Technician

Doug Holloway

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2007, 05:12:34 pm »
Ken

For something to degrade so that it vitually becomes water it would need to contain only hydrogren and oxygen such as hydrogen peroxide.

MPower being a surfactant will certainly contain carbon.

I would be very careful about any of these claims.

Cheers

Doug




stevegunn

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2007, 05:35:45 pm »
Nemesis  must be quite a bit different to M Power then.

M Power, once added to water, will remain active >3days. It will then degrade within 14 days so it virtually becomes water.  So my advice is don't copy Steve's exercise with M Power or there will be tears :'(

Nemesis is no different because I have just spoke to the manufacturer who assures me it certainly does not become water after 14 days.It also depends on the water your mixing it with too deionized water should be used.

Obviously John is away and I'm sure he will reply to this thread in more depth when he returns.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2007, 05:38:28 pm »
Hi Doug

The figures I'm quoting are as told to me during a pre-launch seminar for M Power ie upon use, the product will remain active under damp/humid conditions for upto 3 days. The product is fully biodregradeable in 14 days.

Perhaps I should have phrased a little better and said that M Power is probably as effective as water after 14 days of being added to water :-X

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Doug Holloway

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2007, 06:00:09 pm »
Hi Ken

I know your not trying to mislead but these things are a bit like chinese whispers, where a bit of marketing hyperbole grows into a BS beast of its own.

Unfortunately the science is well hidden and ultimately the gullible believe everything and the cynics believe nothing. 

Cheers

Doug

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2007, 06:03:45 pm »

Maybe the answer is to make up a batch and try it in 15 days. ;)

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2007, 09:01:28 pm »
I have been seeking advice about the issue of decomposition of M Power and similar type products.

When mixed with pure water and kept in a closed container, M Power will still have a good "shelf life". However, if exposed to the air and/or mixed with "contaminated water" eg. tap water, "shelf life" cannot be reliably determined.

My posts above were therefore not completely accurate as this product could degrade in a couple of weeks or so or under more favourable conditions it would take considerably longer.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

stevegunn

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2007, 09:05:26 pm »
Keith Richards (john)care to comment ::)

lands

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2007, 09:06:50 pm »
Keith Richards (john)care to comment ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

*paul_moss

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2007, 09:10:19 pm »
Think Ken and Keith are already talking  :)
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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stevegunn

Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2007, 09:12:45 pm »
Ken

I got it from the manufacturer not the supplier that it will be good for up to 12 months or more.Under the wrong conditions it still would not degrade as quickly as you have been told.Now this chap has more knowledge of the chemical than your supplier so I know who to believe.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Nemesis as a spotter
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2007, 09:22:33 pm »
Steve

My last post acknowledges what you have just said, but there will be some differences between the two products hence my referal to what I had been told was about M Power only.

For those of you who think that Dynafoam could be Keith Richards, look at the time of his last post. I have tonight been on the phone to JB from 7.10ish until 8.55. Bit of a marathon chat talking about many different things. He couldn't post whilst he was talking to me (he was in the kitchen)

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!