[Art of Clean]

Hi All

Hope some of you can help

I have a regular customer (Indian Restaurant) who have me in every 3 months to clean. I did the 1st clean about 1 year ago and it came up absolutely fabulous. (Nylon fibre - I used Alltec Traffic lane de-greaser and Ultimate master powder with a portable.) + applied Alltec Protector

Gone back 3 months later and the carpets where really dirty again.

This time used the same as before (Traffic Lane de Greaser and Ultimate master liquid with a truckmount) + Alltec Protector

Gone back shortly after and the carpet really looked bad.

Cleaned it this time with Alltec High performance pre-spray and used an acid rinse.
- as I was advised that Acid rinse would help.

Went back 2 weeks later and the carpet was better - not great though.

I thought the problem to lie in the kitchen - lots of oil from there - so I offered to clean the tiles in the kitchen at the same time as the carpet. I used Viper venom (Alltec) for the tiles and High performance pre-spray and acid rise for the carpets

I did that a few days ago and have since been back to have a look and it really need another clean.

I am giving up

Hope someone can help

 - Maybe Micro splitters?

Thanks a lot

Pierre

[Mike Halliday]

so what do you think the problem is? are you not removing all the dirt in the first place or is more dirt being deposited on the carpet between visits?

as I started reading your post I immediately thought 'clean the kitchen floor' but you already thought of that.

you need to ask where is the dirt coming from if it's from the kitchen, then the answer is regular cleaning of the kitchen floor, maybe 2-3 times a night. Could a kitchen porter run a mop across the floor in quite moment?

do they use the expel-air while cooking?

but if  the problem is with the kitchen staff transferring dirt perhaps a barrier mat at the kitchen door, which the restaurant could hose down daily.

can't think of anything else

Mike

[colin thomas]

i'm not running altech down because i don't use their chemicals but just as a test why not use something else, say prochems powerburst and an acid rinse? see how it goes with the next clean, it might be the waiters dragging the grease in but at least it will give you  an peace of mind about the chems you are using.

colin

[stevegunn]

Try a different chemical chemspecs enzall is what I useon really bad greasy carpets

[francis]

Had the same problem as you Pierre, a few years ago, albeit with a Chinese restuarant.  I was getting the carpets perfectly clean & neutralising them, but they looked absolutely filthy within a few weeks. So the second time I degreased the kitchen floor as well.  Made little difference. Those kitchen floors are splattered with fat again after one service. Plus you had the waiters coming out of the kitchen carrying these wretched sizzling dishes still spewing fat everywhere.  You could see exactly where these guys walked.  Where the customers sat shuffling their dirty shoes under the tables remained relatively clean compared to where the waiters trekked.  So I don't believe trying other presprays or rinses is going to solve your problem

[PaulKing]

apperently enz all has had teh reformulation treatment very recently  that Citrusgel had last year , and is not the great star it once was, anyone eles found this?

Hope to god they done touch formula 90 and leave it alone

[Jason Hedges]

Hi Pierre,

I use hydramaster blitz or prochems power burst followed up with a very weak acid rinse on the Indian restaurants i clean. Tried microsplitters once didnt touch it. Try not to leave to much chemical residue in the carpet as this will attract soiling quicker.

You'll probably find its being walked in from somewhere, either outside, the kitchen, behind the bar or one place I clean it came from the accomodation upstairs, the stairs to the flat upstairs were thick with black greasy dirt, you couldnt even see the carpet through it.... not surprising really, there were 8 Indian waiters living up there in one room!!!

Hope this helps,
Jason.

[Robert Watson]

I'm with Mike and Francis.
It's coming from somewhere.
Rab.

[lands]

Ruby houses are open every night so is it fair to say that there will still be quite alot of moisture in the carpet when they open for business (even if you can't feel it)?

Might be worth getting a couple of dryers on it when you are done as this might help. This is a guess by the way coz whilst I agree with others re the waiters etc. if you have noticed it to be that bad I think there must be more to it than this. I would also try an alternative set of solutions andthen get custy to vac when dry (this may remove some of the residues)

[The Great One]

Hi

i feel it is just footfall.

It may be best to go in a different times and see what's actually going on.

I feel it won't matter what you use, from spitting greasy dishes all over the floor, with beer & soft drinks, dirty feet, grease from the kitchen etc etc.

I have taken on a pub, i counted over 200 pieces of gum, removed half of them, now 3 weeks later it looks like I haven't bothered, as on a fri/sat night they have almost 2000 people through the door.

Regards

Martin

[Ken Wainwright]

From the information provided, it would not appear that there's a problem getting the carpets to look clean.

The problem appears to be re-soiling. The obvious candidate is new soil being introduced. This will be from outside,  the kitchen and it's floor, the staff's shoes will be grease laden, so will the wheels on serving trolleys.

I'm a little concerned about the early cleaning cycles. Generically speaking, a flourocarbon protector would be applied to an acidified carpet. This wasn't done. Again generically speaking, a protector needs 24 to 48 hours to completely cure, this is different to the drying time. This is not possible in a 7 day working environment. The protector may have turned sticky. Subsequent cleans may have removed most of this.

An extra consideration may be to pilelift and clean to industry accepted standards, finishing with an acid rinse. When completey dry, return visit to thoroughly vac/pilelift again.

Given the nature of the beast, the chances of rapid resoiling are high.

Being a synthetic face yarn, the fibres will not be as effective at hiding soil as a suitable wool fibre. There will also be surface abrasion to the nylon fibres. They will look bright and vibrant when wet, but opaque and dull when dry.

The carpet's colour, especially in this environment, will also affect the carpets appearance retention performance.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

I wouldn't use a protector in this type of enviroment, it is unlikely you would get the carpet clean enough to allow a proper bond and as Ken says Protectors will take time for the film to harden.

I would try HWE , then go over with cotton bonnett to remove more soil and dry.

Cheers

Doug

[Art of Clean]

Thanks a lot for all the input. Much appreciated.

Pierre