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Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2007, 10:43:15 pm »
just get it, both of you tony and steve! Luke
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stevekennedy

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2007, 10:52:55 pm »
Thinking about it. Need to get some final reassurance and the all important price point.

They look a bit fragile compared to what we use at the moment (Ionics Ergolite and Universal) But If it's just me using it then I can be careful.

We have a castle that we do. We can't reach the top windows. 70ft. Would be really cool if we can do that too.

Hopefully Alex can reassure me on these final points. (and tempt me with an amazing deal  ;D)

NWH

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2007, 10:54:15 pm »
That pole has been used at 70ft,in fact i think it was 72.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2007, 10:55:45 pm »
steve , look at the endrance test on Gardiners website, its under the video section

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
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Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2007, 10:57:20 pm »
but Gardiners dont sell it to that height so how was it done ( just adding extra sections? ) Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2007, 11:00:29 pm »
That pole has been used at 70ft,in fact i think it was 72.
used be a giant I am guessing

NWH

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2007, 11:02:16 pm »
That pole is only so many sections 4 or 5 i think and then all the sections after that are to increase the height so in theory you could go very high.

stevekennedy

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2007, 11:02:41 pm »
I have seen the vid. When you have a weight on the end of a pole and have it extended it changes the dynamics. There is more torsion on the pole. ALex will have tested this, I'm sure, but it would be difficult to show on a video.

When I think about it, I suppose if you can reel in a 1000lb Marlin or Tuna with it then it must up to the job  ??? Just looking for reassurance. I was also worried that it might get too whippy at height (70ft) with a multipole head on it.

I wish I could get my hands on one to try.


Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2007, 11:06:18 pm »
steve, this is not a fishing pole, it is stronger than a fishing pole. I wouldnt like to use it at 70ft! and use the brush provided because its so light. Alex will be releasing a new superlight brush soon, so watch out for that, Luke

ps. this is the stiffest produced pole there is so no need to worry about whippyness!
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

NWH

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2007, 11:15:57 pm »
Above 45ft WFP is a different ball game and requires more concentration.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2007, 11:17:45 pm »
A superlite is safer at taller heights too as it is easier to handle than your average big pole, luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

stevekennedy

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2007, 11:21:29 pm »
Above 45ft WFP is a different ball game and requires more concentration.
NWH
We are using a 62ft ergolite right now. I want to know how this pole will compare.

NWH

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2007, 11:26:37 pm »
That pole has been used like i said at over 70ft,that pole your on about was the pole that was used previously to the superlite pole,over 24ft it`s modular all the way.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2007, 11:44:22 pm »
luke have you ever cleaned a window at 60ft yet, or even 50ft atm like your pole is

NWH

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2007, 11:46:10 pm »
No he hasn`t. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Jeff Brimble

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2007, 07:36:07 am »
60ft is high, 72ft is a serious height but can be cleaned (I use an F16 fishing pole base and 6 extensions for £700 inc vat.)because the poles are light. You just keep adding parallel sections to the base. Under trial conditions I have used a one man at 83.5ft. Maybe 100ft will be attained within 5 years. For work at height no other poles come into the equation, the ergolite is a TWO man pole. I sold mine s/h and the purchaser has now upgraded to the S2. Maybe 100ft is attainable within 5 years. The prices will come down as more compettitors to the trad telescopic appear.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2007, 08:43:29 am »
Excellent answer ALex.

I wuold never extend without the pole resting against the building.

I am looking for 60ft plus.

What is the max hieght? Can I make up the pole to the hieght I want (60ft) and then raise it? Is the lateral strength ok for this? Or do you have to attach the sections whilst resting against the building?

How do the brushes you use compare with multipole? I have heard Lewis talking about wieght issues. Can I realistically use a multipole brush with your poles? Are there any reasons why this wouldn't be a good idea? Not that I have anything against your brushes mind.

How much would such a pole cost with an alloy gooseneck? (approx 9-12 inches)

I would always recommend that above 45ft the pole is leaned against the building and then extra sections added as required.

Working at 45ft is comparatively easy but anything over this height, it progressively becomes more difficult to work with any type of pole. We sell the pole in packages up to 56ft (60ft reach) as we feel that this is a practical and usable maximum height. Any pole is going to have some degree of flexibility and when this is happening 60ft up, it can get interesting.

These poles have been tested up to 72ft but this was more for our interest than as a recommendation. What would you need to do to get to this height? Buy a 56ft S2 and then buy 2 extra extension sections (£54 each) to get a reach of 70ft. This would be your own personal undertaking and we would not advise that you do this although it is possible. (please note that it would also invalidate the warranty on the S2).

It is perfectly practical to use the Ionics Multipole brush on the S2. The brush supplied is 220g in weight whereas the Mulitpole brush is 300g. This will make some difference in ease of use but not too much. The Aluminium G-Fit gooseneck will simply cut a thread into the socket on the back of the brush.The S2 has been used in testing with a large Vikan brush which is about 600g - we would not recommend that you use a brush that heavy, but it is possible. Have you tried the brush that comes with the S2? I think that you will be pleasantly surprised by its effectiveness, most people are.

As stated above any of our goosenecks from our range can be fitted to the Super-Lite 2, the only difference is that on our standard poles the hose goes up the inside of the gooseneck and on the Super-Lite 2 the hose is on the outside.

Tristan R Clean

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2007, 10:21:40 am »
I have the new superlite 2 it is an excellent pole.

I frequently work at 60ft .

I would say at heights over 45ft you need to be selective with your days.

When there is any hint of windy weather the pole is like trying to fly a kite.

Strong winds forget it. 0n breezy days i use my Welmac Carbon.

Tris

 

Alex Gardiner

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2007, 01:23:53 pm »
Alex, if I make my pole a 60ft one will I need a bigger holdall? Luke

and what do you think of the pictures Alex?

Hi Luke,

To turn your pole into a 56ft (60ft Reach) pole you would 2 more sections, these would just fit into your holdall.

Love your pictures Luke, they are very crisp and clear. I may well use some of them on our site if that's OK with you.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SUPER-LITE 2 REVIEW AND LOADS OF GOOD PHOTOS TAKEN TODAY!!!!
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2007, 02:48:00 pm »
thats fine Alex, use them if you want

and when I meant easy to use at larger heights I meant at 45ff, because I have no experience of cleaning higher than this. I have held a 60ft carbon fibre universal and WOW that was heavy! and also an omnipole 50ft and a 45ft facelift at Blackpool, oh and a 40ft carbontec when I had my system fitted, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.