[mitch2810]

I am purchasing a truckmount and want another machine as back up and for those unaccessable jobs. Opinions of all greatly valued. Thanks
Phil

[Adam Young]

Supercharley's and a 200 rpm rotary.....................forget the heat!

Adam.

[gwrightson]

Have only seen d/f working once before, or should i say not working particulerly well

Encap, ideal for office, low pro, b/w and numerous other other jobs if you have the cimex and attachments,
when you say back up to t/m is this because of your worry with access to commercial premesis, or fear of down time with t/m ?
if its because of access to commercial premesis, go for encap everytime easy to use, easy to set up ,and the bonus of large areas in less time, and before some of the t/ms start to say they can reach most places with t/m , imo they are talking bo**cks  

Geoff ;

[mitch2810]

The main reason is access. There are a lot of city centre offices that are un reachable with a truckmount. I take your opinion on board  Geoff thanks
Phil

[JS2]

Without daring to spark the 'TM versus other methods' debate, can there really be any proper comparison between the performance of TM and encap or DF ?  How about a HWE porty for those inaccessible places ?

Regards

Pete (JS2)

[Steve_Knight]

Hi Phil
Which TM did you go for in the end?

Cheers

Steve

[mitch2810]

Steve
I will be getting the Boxxer 421 from Dave later this month ( hopefully ! )

[Steve_Knight]

Hi Phil
Very wise choice!
I saw Daves setup at the Sunny Day Out in May and it was immaculate and the Boxxer 421 is an excellent machine

Cheers

Steve

[mark_roberts]

Theres no one answer for this one.

You with still need a portable for HWE those carpets which need it ie. apartments, rentals etc.

You will need a VLM method such as Texatherm for cleaning/restoration of office carpet tiles.

If you can justify the cost a cimex would be nice for encap maintainence cleans but how many of them do you get in big open areas.  The cimex goes forward and back, is big and heavy and so may not be the best machine for offices working around desks.

Ive not got the cimex only demod it but have the rest and there all used weekly.

Mark

[stevegunn]

Someone mentioned prochem were bringing a similar chemical to encap out anybody know whenit is available?

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I've used both albeit with a lesser encap chemical and I would say that encap with a Cimex is faster but results wise down to the operator.

Cimex you have to clean the brushes out but no laundering of pads though.

Shaun

[Dave Roelants]

Hi Phil,
I've little  experience of encap but you need to remember the technology has been around for a long time, it used to be called shampooing and many of your older customers would apply it using something called a Bex Bissell! Having said that the system does have it's uses but in my view they're quite limited. The Cimex is an excellent machine but as has been said very heavy and difficult to handle.
Dry Fusion on the other hand I've had for seven years now, I use it mostly for commercial where I have had some outstanding results but also for some hotel bedrooms where the room has to be dry in 30mins(guaranteed!) There is no way I would part with mine and I think most users of the system would be the same so there are very few used units available apart from stolen ones! I can't believe Steve Knight is selling his, mine paid for itself in the first six months and is continuing to earn me money with as yet minimal repair costs
Hope this helps
Dave

[Steve_Knight]

Hi Dave
Its a different Steve Knight!
I have the Texatherm system but dont seem to use it as much these days since i started using glides but it does come in handy for the jobs with "no truckmount access"
Cheers

Steve

[Graeme@Access]

Hi,

I would buy a rotary and fire on a couple of charlys/tons of cottons/(microfibres, although i havent used them yet).

Im not convinced that investing 1800 in a cimex or a small fortune in a DF would really get much better results.

Its all about even dirt distribution in the end.  We have used bonnet on many carpets including a university(very manky) and tonight another 2km in a call centre(discustingly manky).... hwe wouldnt have done much better in terms of appearance >> client happiness.  In fact, i think it would have made the carpet look more uneven and to the client, this means dirtier.

Seriously though... buy a cheap bonnet, then maybe spend a bit more once you know where the goal posts are and have something to compare it to.  Get a rotary that <180 rpm and weighs as much as possible.  Its all about kg/m˛ with bonnet as this effects the user fatigue, controlability (is that even a word... d**n its late), pressure >> agitation and combined... the result per minute spent.

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

[Les]

Blimey Graeme, can't you sleep either  or had you just got in from lastnight to be on here at 4.30 a.m. ? 

Les

[Dave Roelants]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse TWO Steve Knights

[Ken Wainwright]

One Dave Roelants, there's only one Dave Roelants

But there's two Steve Knights and two Mark Roberts

Safe and happy .........
Ken

[Steve_Knight]

Could be worse Dave what about two Billy Turtons!

Cheers

Steve