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stevegunn

HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« on: September 26, 2007, 08:25:53 pm »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GUUokpS2GGo

Benny Hill eat your heart out ;D

stuart_clark

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 08:32:41 pm »
Steve, looks like Chemdry have there own version of the RX20

*paul_moss

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2007, 09:16:25 pm »
Steve seen this before total bollukkks,no way can a pad system out clean a HWE machine in terms of soil removal.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2007, 09:39:56 pm »
Many Americans and Canadians would disagree Paul and can back it up

rob m

*paul_moss

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007, 09:53:30 pm »
Rob I know this and had man an argument about it.
I find on moderatey soiled carpets it is ok but on heavy soil or dense piled carpets that hwe far out performs it.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

Len Gribble

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 10:19:03 pm »
Rob

Bit like the shake and vac type systems Vs the bonnet type (looks like a minuteman machine ;))

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 10:21:00 pm »
Many Americans and Canadians would disagree Paul and can back it up

rob m

Well I only know one Yank carpet cleaner and I'd put money on it that he'd reckon his T/M would wipe the floor with any encap OP system. ;)

carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 10:42:33 pm »
Yes I know, but the encap products, the bonnets and the o/p machines have proven themselves to t/m users who were amazed at the results.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 10:45:39 pm »
Domestically HWE for me commercially both, I can get better results and faster production with a rotary system.

Robert have you still got your Klanz?

Shaun

carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2007, 10:49:59 pm »
Regretably not, wish I had, great little machine

rob m

lands

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2007, 11:25:13 pm »
No agitation on the HWE demo. Thats the difference

carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2007, 11:29:12 pm »
Aggitation is provided by the high pressure from T/M

rob m

invalid excuse

lands

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2007, 11:36:52 pm »
I don't get that Rob. How does that work?

stuart_clark

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2007, 09:07:59 am »
I noticed on the LM system it was a two man team, so was quicker , but they were cleaning the same carpet and the LM system did seem to get better results

carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2007, 09:19:23 am »
Two man team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Yes another guy sprayed and laid the pad down, but the actual cleaning by the V/L/M system was completed in about a quarter of the time.

However, it's a duff test in terms of the finished result which would have taken longer

Mike Halliday

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2007, 12:09:20 pm »
lets not forget that with a bonnet all you are doing is rubbing the top surface with a damp cloth, it will wipe off any surface dirt on a man-made fibre. in this video you need to ask which system is taking the most dirt out off the carpet ( not just off the top)

of course you will get more visible soil transfered to a bonnet on the side done by the HWE because you are running a bonnet across a damp carpet so you are taking more soil out of the carpet, on the other side the bonnet is clean because no more dirt an be removed because the carpet is dry, so apart from just abrasion there is no way more dirt can be extracted.

all this video shows is a reason to run a bonnet across a HWE'd carpet to remove more soil

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

PaulKing

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2007, 02:39:11 pm »
It does look like they use the dirty bonnet from the dry cleaning that is face up at the end of the dry system,  face down on the HWE carpet run over, or do my eyes decive me have a look at 1.20 where the dry guys walk back in and pick up the bonnet. they use a new one on the  dry sytem and the old one on the wet.
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

The Great One

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2007, 06:07:43 pm »
Hi

Hmmm, Shake & Vac system...

I like the sound of that.

Regards

Martin 8)


carpet guy

Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2007, 06:55:56 pm »
Don't think they are using a dirty pad for the wet clean area and clean for the dry area and what shake and vac' has to do with this is beyond me.

Encapsulation is happening in a big way, elsewhere, because,

It gives a good result
Is very quick drying
Is quick to set up und use
Is very quiet in operation
Is very quick in use
Is more profitable.

The products are superior to the old shampoos, which left a residue. Modern crystallising dry foams don't leave a sticky residue and some have a built in inhibitor.

Anyone who has used the Cimex would appreciate the fantastic productivety of the machine and from all accounts, the genuine pro versions of o/p machines are winning over, even the more cynical of t/m'ers.

rob m


Mike Halliday

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Re: HWE vs. EncapSOLUTION
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2007, 07:01:53 pm »
what has  encapsulation got to do with this?  it looks like an advert for a bonnet chemical, if it also encapsulates then great but this isn't evident from the vidio

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk